Daily Links for Monday, January 9
The week is new, but will anything else change for the Buffalo Sabres? Will Darcy Regier make a move this week, or will the team on the ice reward patience with some bona fide wins?
HAMILTON: Thoughts From Sabres/Jets - WGR 550
The Sabres keep letting their opponents off the hook by not burying their early chances.
Bogosian has warm memories of Buffalo - The Buffalo News
A nice story about Zach Bogosian and Buffalo.
Overreactions, 41st Edition: Help - 3rd Man In
A superb effort from Jhonas Enroth went to waste, and Buffalo continued their free fall, losing to the team stolen out of Atlanta by a score of 2-1 in overtime.
Post-Game Thoughts: Jets at Sabres 1.7.12 - The Hosers
Some additional thoughts on the Jets game from Derek at The Hosers.
Marchand to face hearing Monday - NHL.com
Boston's Brad Marchand will have a hearing with Brendan Shanahan and the Department of Player Safety Monday.
Staal, Neal to miss significant time for Pens - NHL.com
The Penguins got more bad news Sunday when the team announced that Jordan Staal and James Neal each will miss several weeks due to injury.
The competitiveness of the Southeast Division is the surprise of the season’s first half - Puck Daddy
Going into the 2011-12 season, most assumed that Southeast Division would be a two-horse race.
Time for Flames to start dealing stars - The Globe and Mail
An 9-0 drubbing by the Bruins shows why it’s time to start over with draft picks and young talent.
Barch ruling a missed opportunity - Red Light
The reason for the one-gamer was Barch’s use of "inappropriate language" during his team’s game against Montreal in a now-traditional New Year’s Eve afternoon contest.
KHL: Gun-slinging owners, drugs, dodgy air travel all part of the game - thestar.com
Gun-slinging owners, planting drugs on players and dodgy aircraft travel are all part of the game at the world's No. 2 hockey league.
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After watching the last few games, how did we win a single game without Tyler Myers? Seriously.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
Also, we’re up to top-5 in Cap Hit and TOI lost due to injury despite being 11th last month and 21st the month before that.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
by Ubiquitous on Jan 9, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No one is catching Columbus/Anaheim/Carolina, even if the Sabres get outshot by ten shots a game like they are currently.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
We are only 6 points up on Carolina (7 on the Islanders).
It’s the West Conf. teams that are probably out of reach.
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Man, Paul Hamiltons post-game comments after the Jets loss was pretty strong.
Basically saying blow up the “Core,” minus Vanek of course.
He understands people calling for Ruffs head, but doesnt think any coach can win with Roy, Stafford, Gaustad, and Pominville as “The Guys.”
I hate that I love Buffalo.
Although thats what I said a yr or 2 ago
Roy, Stafford & Pominville are scorers & this team has more than enough goal scorers to put 3 or 4 goals in a night, which is all they need w/the goaltenders & D. Offensive talent level is way more than adequate, the team simply does not produce.
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Jan 9, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I still agree with Hamilton’s assessment. Why is Drew Stafford still a Sabre? Ditto Paul Gaustad. They should have been gone years ago.
Look at Blake Wheeler. Blake Wheeler provided plenty of scoring for Boston, but he was streaky. Boston flipped him for a Rich Peverley. Not a huge name, but he’s been a nice addition that has added something to the team. The Sabres don’t need a superstar. They’re missing the JP Dumonts and Stu Barneses that used to provide some grit and goals. Instead they’re relying on players with talent, but they’re really streaky.
Regier has done a lot of good things, but he has gotten terrible at having a sense of when to get rid of assets for something. Anything. He did a good job with Butler. Why not with the other guys? Does he overvalue them?
You nailed it.
They’re missing the JP Dumonts and Stu Barneses that used to provide some grit and goals. Instead they’re relying on players with talent, but they’re really streaky.
Besides Vanek, and even him to extent over his career, out top players are all streaky. No consistancy.
I hate that I love Buffalo.
Id argue that goal scoring isnt good...
we cant score at all besides Vanek, on a consistant basis… and even hes cooled down a little bit.
I agree 100% with Hamilton, in that we need to blow the core of this team up. Theyve become too soft and comfortable.
I want to keep Ruff, because like he said, I dont think another coach gets these guys going either. But ya never know…
I hate that I love Buffalo.
goal scoring is horrible
but it is not because of lack of talent. Plenty of players that can put the puck in the net, they, in mass, are just not producing.
Lindys coached for 13 years with 0 Stanley cups. The coaching change in DC has made a difference for a similar problem. Players that produced on other teams have stopped doing so here. European players are suffocated in grinding style hockey. #26 is a 50 goal scorer on most teams from yr2 forward.
Sure the 1st move will b2 shake things up a bit w/a couple players walking the plank but.. lets hope that does the trick.
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Jan 10, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
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The coaching change in DC has made a difference for a similar problem.
Did it? I don’t know where in the standings they were before firing Häagen-Dazs, but they are are still in 10th.
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Washington also needs its core to change. That’s what is needed more so than anything else. They’re in a similar boat as Buffalo, although their fall was more rapid and steep. The Caps have also changed up a lot of the surrounding casts, and those guys are continuing to produce. Semin and Ovechkin have been AWOL this year and even Backstrom has struggled a bit. Mike Green has been hurt. The only reason that the Caps are ahead of the Sabres is that their secondary scoring is scoring a bit more.
the 2 stars
are now producing, which they did not do for the last coach. Climb up the ranks comes after the change & associated output jump.
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Or the "2 stars" would have eventually broken out of their slumps anyway because they are very talented payers.
(I say “2 stars” because I’m not even sure who that refers to. Presumably Ovechkin and Backstrom? Or Semin?)
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Ovie & Semin
Backstrom was playing well? They broke out because of the catalyst or change (axed the coach).
Fire the coach, dump a player or 2, monetary incentives or let time take its course are the common options. The caps stars have responded to the 1st.
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Jan 12, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
What's more likely:
1) “They broke out because of the catalyst or change (axed the coach)”, or
2) They broke out because they are too talented to suck forever?
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Nothing like comfirmation bias, eh?
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If our core is 5 guys: Vanek, Pominville, Stafford, Roy, and Gaustad, I would only want to part with 2 of them: Gaustad and Stafford. Roy only becomes expendible if you can replace him with an equally productive center, which you cannot, so he stays. Vanek and Pominville obviously stay. Mabe Hecht can stay for another year to give some veteran, defensively-responsible presence. I like Gaustad and Stafford, but they are more valuable as trade pieces than as future Sabres at this point. Is trading 2/5 of your core “blowing it up”? I’m not sure, but if it is, I guess I agree. Where I disagree is that this needs to happen now. Anyone who follows stocks knows you don’t sell low, the team will finish strong after the injuries are healed and the lineup is more consistent. So in the offseason, buyers will be willing to give up a little more for our castaways. One change I would make immediately is moving Pominville to center. He is our best playmaker and he’s pretty damned good at faceoffs, and this allows a RW to move up to the top line, Stafford or Ennis or Leino maybe. No trades required for that improvement. I guess that’s up to Ruff, and I try to give him some slack for all he’s been handed this season, he deserves some patience for all he’s committed to this team over the years. That being said, if he can’t turn the team around to get back in the playoff hunt by March or so, I’d be OK with a new coach.
I can't believe this.
I remember thinking along those lines the last few games I watched.
I remember watching this team a few times when all those guys were trying to make roster spots and/or prove themselves in the NHL. They all had their shortcomings but they all played hungry and were fun to watch. Now, it’s like most of them lost something. I was thinking specifically of Gaustad and Pominville.
Rather astute aren’t I?
by LanceArmstrong_LIVESTRONG on Jan 10, 2012 2:54 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll disagree on Pominville.
He plays in all situations, doesn’t make a lot of mistakes, and is tied for 9th in the NHL in scoring. 14 goals, 29 assists for 43 points. Averaging 1.05 points per game.
"If we needed any more motivation to win a Cup sooner than later, we've got one now," Black said. "I really want to listen to the game that RJ calls when he finally gets to shout out, 'Buffalo wins the Stanley Cup.'"
"Do it or Die Trying."
by FloridaBuffalo on Jan 10, 2012 4:47 AM EST up reply actions
Which could mean
It would be time to sell high on him. Something to consider. Remember, he disappeared a lot in the past two years. This may be his career year.
ruff
i do feel there are many issues that this team need address, we do need to move players…but first and foremost, ruff needs to be relieved of his duties. i disagree that another coach could not get these guys going.
we have talented players, they have proven this many times, but i don’t think ruff is using them to their strengths. i don’t think his system is built for this team…and his inability to recognize that, or adapt to it, proves in my mind that he is no longer suitable for the job. he is pulling names out of a hat when he flip flops lines constantly during games.
he has been here so long and has been unable to win a cup.
i think we need a new coach and gm. the coach will be able to impose his new system that he will hopefully form around some of the proven talents that we have, and anyone that can not keep up should be sent packing for replacements. to say there are no other coaches out there is a joke to me. time for a fresh mind behind the bench. i never thought i would say the games are boring to watch, but the system is a bore. i can’t wait for the hard working sabres teams of the past to be back. lets go buffalo.
Just out of curiosity
Do you have any potential coaching candidates to throw in the ring for discussion?
"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula
by willgarr15 on Jan 9, 2012 5:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
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i don’t think his system is built for this team
Have we really seen how his system works with this team? Besides the Europe games (where we were good) and the first few games after that, we haven’t seen the actual Buffalo Sabres playing Ruff’s system.
he has been here so long and has been unable to win a cup.Worst line of arguing. By this measure Hasek was a failure in his time in Buffalo as well.
to say there are no other coaches out there is a joke to me.Names please!
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“Have we really seen how his system works with this team? Besides the Europe games (where we were good) and the first few games after that, we haven’t seen the actual Buffalo Sabres playing Ruff’s system.”
- i understand your argument here…but i don’t feel that blaming injuries is a good enough scapegoat. the ahl players that have come up have actually played harder than the regulars on this team. i can only guess that when a new person is brought in with only a day of notice, that they are asked to just go out and play “their” game. if they are up for more than a few games and practices i again can only assume that they are then taught at least the basic structure of lindys system. these players seem to drop off after being in a few games. it may very well be because they are just totally overwhelmed and unable to keep up…but it may also be because they are being coached to play a system that doesn’t work well. i don’t know.
“Worst line of arguing. By this measure Hasek was a failure in his time in Buffalo as well.”
i don’t think it is a horrible argument when you couple him with darcy. look, i used to protect lindy as well, it wasn’t until last year that i really started to waver. i do think the style of game that the sabres play is boring to watch. i still watch every single game and i live on the other side of the country. i am a diehard fan and will stick with them even if they keep lindy. but honestly…i don’t hold him on a pedestal and consider him untouchable. he has had years and years to take the sabres to the cup and it hasn’t happened. to compare him to hasek i think is a little off. hasek was great at his job and he proved it night in and night out. he was the reason that team was so successful. and as i said at the beginning of my post…we do need to move players as well.
“Names please!”
this to me is the worst line of arguing from you. honestly…you think lindy ruff is the best coach in the entire world and that it is impossible to find a replacement? change is good in my opinion…you may not think so and that is fine, but in my mind change is long overdue. i am in no position to name coaches that i think should take over, and i am in no position to name players that should be traded or acquired. it is not my job and i don’t have all the facts and behind the scenes scoop. but it can be done. look at florida… new gm and new coach (one that could have been ours) and they have put together a great exciting brand of hockey. this team can be great. we have great players. we need a few changes …and the order i choose is darcy, lindy, and then the new gm and coach figure out what to do with the players.
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these [rookies] seem to drop off after being in a few games.
Totally normal for rookies and unfair to blame Ruff’s system (not that you were outright doing that, I’m just saying).
i don’t think it is a horrible argument when you couple him with darcy.It is because it’s the most extreme form of results-oriented analysis. It ignores first overall finishes and any other forms of success not to mention process (how he does things).
to compare him to hasek i think is a little off. hasek was great at his jobSo is Ruff by all accounts. Here’s a link to a statistical analysis I did of Ruff-coached teams. It hard to say he’s not good at his job. Hasek had 9 years to win a Cup in Buffalo. That should have been plenty of time to win one. He didn’t, therefore he would have to be classified a failure using your line of argument.
you think lindy ruff is the best coach in the entire world and that it is impossible to find a replacementNot at all. I happen to think he’s is probably a top-5 coach in the league but I could understand you not holding him in quite so high regard. I just think if one sugguests that Ruff should be removed, they should at least offer a suggestion as to who to replace him with.
it is not my job and i don’t have all the facts and behind the scenes scoop.Not saying it is. But the whole point of fan-based discussions is that we can still inquire and ask questions and discuss. I for one think Scott Gordon could be a good head coach in the NHL if giving another chance and a non-sucky team like the Islanders. If Ruff were to go (which I think would be a mistake), he’d be the guy I think I’d most like to step in. Basically, if we are going to fire someone who has as much respect league-wide and the track-record he has, we better have someone good in mind.
and [the Panthers] have put together a great exciting brand of hockeyThey’ve had a successful season so far no doubt, but they also had a lot more room to re-make that team (aka they were at the salary-floor so they could take on a horrible contract like Campbell’s and pay Fleischmann a $4.5M cap-hit and Jovanovski a $4.125M cap-hit). Also, Tallon has only been in Florida for one year. After the cap hell he put Chicago in, let’s wait a bit before we crown him a genius (Yes, he won a Cup doing it, but they were helped by the draft and without his crippling signings (Huet, Campbell) could have a lot more flexibility leading to Byfuglien still being a Hawk for example and currently be in an even better position).
and the order i choose is darcy, lindy, and then the new gm and coach figure out what to do with the players.I guess this is where our disagreement stems. I think the team could still use some massaging and I trust Darcy and Ruff to do it best. I also don’t see any available alternatives that I think could do it better.
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your article on ruff was fantastic. very nice work!
all of your replies were also well received.
i think this comment:
“if we are going to fire someone who has as much respect league-wide and the track-record he has, we better have someone good in mind.” is very true. i do want the best coach available for our team, even if it is ruff.
and i would like ruff to win a cup here because you know he really WANTS to .
just as you know R.J. wants it so bad as well.
i think the main thing right now is that i am frustrated as a fan.
not really because of them losing but because of the effort and passion.
someone asked on another board whether you would rather have an exciting loss or a boring win.
i think i fall under the exciting loss.
i understand that you can’t win every game.
there have only been maybe three games this year that they have put forth nonstop effort and lost…but i turned off the TV feeling very happy that the team gave it their all. i just want to be proud of this team again. i do hope that the organization is really paying attention and trying to fix the parts that are not working. as a fan i guess i can only have faith that they will make the right decision.
not matter what, i am grateful to have terry as our owner.
i am very excited to see our talented young stars play in the next few years.
and i am thankful to have R.J. making the calls for one more year. i hope some day he can make the call for the cup.
thanks for the reply
go sabres!!!
by Matt the Rat on Jan 9, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ruff's system?
Does anybody have anything to back up just what Lindy’s system truly is, and, whether he really he forcing a system of play on players rather than working the system around the players strengths?
In that fan post about Ruff someone made a comment about what Briere had to say about the system – according to him, Ruff was NOT a ‘my way or the highway’ type coach, but one who would use players strengths to create the system.
In other words, I think ‘the system’ is likely just fine.. its the lack of confidence, heart, and grit on the players who for some reason do not feel like competing for 60 minute spurts, who don’t even look as though they are having any fun most of the time. I don’t know what you do with that, because confidence is EVERYTHING (see Boston), but i don’t think this is Lindy’s fault by any stretch.
“In that fan post about Ruff someone made a comment about what Briere had to say about the system – according to him, Ruff was NOT a ‘my way or the highway’ type coach, but one who would use players strengths to create the system.”
i hadn’t heard that comment, but it is very cool. i used to feel that he did do that as well. at least it used to look like he was able to mold his team really well…lately (last two years) it has looked different to me though. of course i have no clue what goes on behind closed doors, but it really just looks like the team is lost and they give up way too many odd man rushes. i would think that he would be able too adapt and figure out these problems. maybe i am asking too much of my coach?
Well since he has adapted before (pre vs. post lockout)
if it is an issue of adaptation, I believe him up to the task.
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Unless the Sabres go on a massive winning streak soon, I might as well just copy and paste my thoughts onto the Daily Links comments each day. Sigh…….
Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz
by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed and trading/firing people will only serve to make people feel better.
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"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
by Ubiquitous on Jan 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
So what you're saying is
that someone needs to kill Matt Ellis. I call not it.
whoa
I don’t think that’s what he was suggesting! (I know, jokes on the internet….)
But for real, trades or firings solely for the sake of change will only make the team worse. Good trade options won’t happen until the team turns their play around and finishes the season strong, and good coach/GM replacements simply don’t exist. Basically, deal with it and hope that the team gets healthy and consistent sooner rather than later.
I could not agree more
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by willgarr15 on Jan 9, 2012 5:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Notice I didn’t say “Until they trade away half the team or fire someone, I might as just copy and paste”. If doing nothing but get healthy helps them win, I’m all for that. If making trades helps them win, I’m all for that. If firing someone helps them win, then do it. If firing noone helps them win, even better.
It was more a commentary that unless something changes (winning or interesting personnel moves) I need to try to avoid just saying the same thing over and over (and I’ll try not too).
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 9, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Pile on the Stafford bandwagon
Thought this was funny
https://twitter.com/#!/BuffNewsVogl/status/156419583627116544/photo/1
"If we needed any more motivation to win a Cup sooner than later, we've got one now," Black said. "I really want to listen to the game that RJ calls when he finally gets to shout out, 'Buffalo wins the Stanley Cup.'"
"Do it or Die Trying."
Ha!
Funny movie. Haven’t seen it or reference to it in a looooong time!
by buffaloparks on Jan 10, 2012 12:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm old.
Maybe with the way the entire Sabres team has been playing, this movie would be more appropriate.
What's the deal with NHL contracts?
Can we cut players in order to free up cap space or are all the contract guaranteed?
by LanceArmstrong_LIVESTRONG on Jan 10, 2012 2:55 AM EST reply actions
Contracts are somewhat guaranteed. You CAN buy someone out but you’ll cripple your cap for a decent amount of time.
From CapGeek.com
Teams are entitled to buy out player contracts for a portion of the remaining value of the contract — paid over a period of twice the remaining length of the contract. Following are the buyout amounts:
Younger than age 26 at the time of buyout, 1/3 the remaining value
Age 26 or older at the time of the buyout, 2/3 the remaining value
The remainder of this explanation assumes the player was not 35 or older when he signed his contract (in which case a buyout saves the team financially but does not reduce the player’s cap hit).
When a player is bought out, the team still takes a cap hit for the player over a period of twice the remaining length of the contract. The amount of the cap hit (by year) is determined as follows:
Take the actual salary due for each remaining year
Take the Averaged Player Salary (cap hit) for the current contract
Calculate the buyout amount (as described above)
Spread the buy-out amount evenly over twice the remaining years of the contract
Take the number in No. 1 and subtract the number in No. 4. This is the "buyout savings."
Take the cap hit from No. 2 and subtract the buyout savings from No. 5.
so If you use Christian Ehrhoff as an example.
Christian Ehrhoff is 29 years old on the buyout date of June 15, 2012, setting the buyout ratio at 2/3 and the total buyout cost at $20,000,000 spread over 18 years. His contract was originally valued at $40,000,000 beginning in 2011 and ending in 2021, with $30,000,000 remaining from the buyout year forward. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit indicates a credit.
2012-13: -$2,888,889
2013-14: $1,111,111
2014-15: $1,111,111
2015-16: $1,111,111
2016-17: $1,111,111
2017-18: $2,111,111
2018-19: $4,111,111
2019-20: $4,111,111
2020-21: $4,111,111
2021-22: $1,111,111
2022-23: $1,111,111
2023-24: $1,111,111
2024-25: $1,111,111
2025-26: $1,111,111
2026-27: $1,111,111
2027-28: $1,111,111
2028-29: $1,111,111
2029-30: $1,111,111
You lose between $1m to $4m in cap space per year for 18 years. That is an extreme example but it gets the idea across. The Last Sabre to be bought out was Tim Kennedy and the Sabres have had to pay $167k against the cap each of the last 2 seasons. (Player under 26 years old and had a contract for 1 year at $1M.) No matter the cost you don’t want to lose cap space, this is the reason players like Kotalik (Europe) and Morrisonn (Rochester) were demoted rather than bought out.
"If we needed any more motivation to win a Cup sooner than later, we've got one now," Black said. "I really want to listen to the game that RJ calls when he finally gets to shout out, 'Buffalo wins the Stanley Cup.'"
"Do it or Die Trying."
by FloridaBuffalo on Jan 10, 2012 4:43 AM EST up reply actions

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