Surprise! The Wheel of Justice is still broken
No suspension for Chara, because he's a super-nice guy. Am I imagining his arm come up and help Pacioretty's head into a stanchion? Watching that hit and the aftermath was literally sickening and so is the license the League (again) just handed certain players to willfully endanger their opponents.
The part that's making me crazy is hearing and reading the words "Zdeno Chara is not a dirty player" everywhere. Do I have him confused with someone else? Isn't this the same guy who spears and slashes the hell out of forwards with the audacity to make him look awkward and slow? Or who always wants a piece of the little guy but gets behind the officials once anyone larger than Tyler Ennis steps up? Who launched Ennis into the bench long, long after the whistle in Game 2 last year, seemingly just for the hell of it? And I don't think his penchant for post-whistle shit-stirring is likely to inspire too many Lady Byng nominations. So I must have the wrong guy. One might expect a guy like that to have been suspended once or twice before, and we all know that if you've never been suspended, the NHL can't possibly suspend you ever.
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like I read on Twitter:
Part of Murphys reasoning is that Chara didnt leave his feet to make the hit.
Well no shit, hes 6’ 9" … he doesnt have to leave his feet.
twoeightnine posted a nasty looking picture of the hit, right as Max’s face was against the seperater.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
Thats Pronger. You’re simply confused.
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I rec’d that shit.
Dammit Pronger!
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by UZ on Mar 10, 2011 4:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know that was Pronger
I was making a point/joke. Never mind… I’ll make sure I spell it all out next time. Wouldn’t want anyone to get confused.
Leave his feet!
What is he going to drop kick him? When does a 6’9" person ever leave their feet? They can dunk a basketball with both feet on the ground probably??? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, I can’t believe I missed that comment from Murphy. What a joke.
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jizzoke.
The NHL is the biggest of jokes of all the pro leagues. And most of the them are complete jokes.
I really really REALLY despise Chara.
And for anybody in their right mind to say he isn’t a dirty player is just lying, stupid, or both.
Mike Murphy, NHL VP of Hockey Operations said...
In reviewing this play, I also took into consideration that Chara has not been involved in a supplemental discipline incident during his 13-year NHL career.
So, apparently the incident in last year’s playoff series against the Sabres where the league let him off of an automatic suspension has been officially forgotten.
Mike, the reason Chara has not been involved in a supplemental discipline incident is because you deliberately violated your own by-laws to keep him on the ice during the playoffs last year.
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by Calvert on Mar 9, 2011 7:45 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Seriously, just fucken suspend him.
This isn’t the type of incident that garners a major suspension, it would only be 2 or 3 games. Boston has a (realistically) guaranteed playoff spot as it is. They would be fine for 2 or 3 games without Chara, in fact it would probably give him some time to rest up to be a better player down the stretch and into the playoffs. So just suspend him like he DESERVES and at the same time your league won’t look so hypocritical and full of shit.
Per TSN (via PuckDaddy):
Pacioretty says he is “upset and disgusted that the league didn’t think enough of (the hit) to suspend him. I’m not mad for myself, I’m mad because if other players see a hit like that and think it’s okay, they won’t be suspended, then other players will get hurt like I got hurt.”
I wonder how much the league will fine Max for speaking out/criticizing the decision of league officials.
That was really well said
I’m glad he got a chance to say what he really thought and not what the League’s media trainers would have told him to say.
I figured you guys would be chomping at the bit over this.
The other team with the most recent history with Chara at the Garden tonight.
Drama, or just hype where there is none?
It is shocking isn't it?
That a dirty hit by a player with a history or dirty actions that was the talk of the hockey world would be talked about on a hockey website.
by twoeightnine on Mar 10, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Oh us whiny Sabre fans...
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
Yep
And once again, everyone sees what they want in a statement and have the blinders on.
I did figure you’d be speaking about this, and I found it a coincidence that the next game after this fiasco is against a team that has history with Chara.
His ruling having part to do with the fact that “he had no history.” Despite the recinded penalty last year in the playoffs.
Get of the soap box.
His ruling having part to do with the fact that "he had no history." Despite the recinded penalty last year in the playoffs.
This is the main point, something that a lot of people have problems with. Hes had instances in the past where they havent doled out any punishment because he is not a repeat offender or doesnt have a history, correct?
Well he doesnt havea history because the NHL recinded the actions in the past.
If you get pulled over speeding, but get out of it the ticket, then the same thing happens again, and then a 3rd time… dont you have a history of speeding? You DESERVE a ticket on all 3 occurances, but for some reason or another they let you/him go.
I dont agree with NO suspension or fine. Im not calling for him to get banned for life… but a 2-3 game suspension would have been perfect. Like we said above players have been suspended for giving a “jerking it” motion and for saying “sloppy seconds” … this could end Pacioretty’s career.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
by bflo on Mar 10, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
DING DING DING!!!
This is the main point, something that a lot of people have problems with. Hes had instances in the past where they havent doled out any punishment because he is not a repeat offender or doesnt have a history, correct?
"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula
And "get off the soap box"
Chara isnt the darling you think he is, dont come over here starting shit with
I figured you guys would be chomping at the bit over this. The other team with the most recent history with Chara at the Garden tonight.
Drama, or just hype where there is none?
And then tell us to get off the soap box when we defend why we’re talking about it / disagreeing.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
Man oh man.
Never said he was a darling.
I wanted to come to this site an see what the talk was, and I see the thread.
I thought I’d see a thread like this, so I said, “I figured you’d be speaking of this.”
As far as drama, with Buffalo’s history last year, I wondered if there was indeed discussion about this, about Chara’s first game after this coming against Buffalo, a team he has history with and a team who had a ruling go against them that was part of the reasoning behind the current ruling.
I wondered if Buffalo was really looking at this as “just a game,” or if there was extra hype/drama.
The moment I post, it’s assumed I’m here just to defend, which I wasn’t, and I’m tired of every team’s fans assuming if we post somewhere that it’s to defend Z. We don’t need a morals lesson.
I thought he’d get 2 or 3 games after Pac’s injuries came out.
To your point about tonight's game
It is strange, but it’s not like our team is upset because Chara is a goon (well at least not more tonight than any other night). I don’t think you’ll see any extra tension due to the incident in Montreal, because frankly, it’s not like we have to be Montreal’s big brother. They will handle it I’m sure the next time they play the Bruins.
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Of course we have history with Chara
He has spent his entire career in our division! How do you not have history with a player like that?
"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula
OK here goes.....
The Chara hit was simply an illegal hit, that had catastrophic consequences. Period. Was it cheap? Yes. Was it much different then the hit on Ennis Tuesday night where he hit the stanchion (sp?) with his ribs? Only by a few feet. So let’s break down a few points that are being made, and being thrown out there by the brilliant minds of Mike Milbury, etc:
First of all, I do not buy for one second that Chara didn’t know where he was on the ice. That partition is there in 99% of all ice rinks from San Jose to Quebec City. If you didn’t “realize” it, then you are a giant idiot, Chara. So, Chara is either a cheap shot for intentionally hitting a player into that glass, or completely oblivious to where he was on the ice. I think the first is far more likely for a veteran player like Chara who has logged as many minutes as he has.
The next point on this is that Chara knew damn well who he was hitting, especially since he has a history with Max Pac. Anyone who has ever played sports and had a fued or any sort of ongoing thing with an opposing player knows that when that player steps on the field, ice, court you know damn well he’s out there and when he has the puck right in front of you, you realize it is him. On top of that, in an instance when you may just let a guy off with a slight bump, if it’s a player you have “history” with, you are definitely gonna give a little extra so that he knows it. Now, don’t get me wrong: it isn’t Chara’s fault they have a history. They were both involved in that. But to know that that is what is going through his head clearly points to him knowingly putting Pac into the boards in a dangerous part of the ice.
Now, as far as the NHL is concerned, they have a situation where a player was severely injured on an ILLEGAL play. No one in their right mind would argue that that was not an interference penalty. So, a serious injury occured from an illegal act. How is that different from a player getting hurt from a boarding penalty? Did Hjalmarsson intend to hurt Pominville? I don’t think so, especially from this quote:
“It was too hard of a hit, I guess,” Hjalmarsson said Wednesday. “I should have considered him being in a vulnerable position a bit more and not hit him as hard. That’s what they said.”
Nonetheless, Hjalmarsson was suspended 2 games for injuring a player with an illegal hit. Now people will argue that if Chara makes that same hit a thousand other areas on the ice, it is not remotely dangerous, and I will agree. But it didn’t happen against the glass in the zone, or just against the player’s bench away from the stanchion. If Hjalmarsson hits Pominville in the open ice, no injury. A player is responsible for knowing where he is on the ice, and acting accordingly. Therefore, Hjalmarsson was suspended for making a dangerous play as such.
So what are we really saying? It is worse to hit with the shoulder instead of the forearm? It is worse to hit a player right before he gets the puck then a few seconds after? It’s ok to do whatever you want if you are too big to control yourself? It’s ok if you haven’t been suspended before? Oh wait, Hjalmarsson was a first-time offender and that didn’t stop the league from taking action.
Now, let’s go to that point: Chara is not a repeat offender. That is a load of complete BS. Chara is a repeat offender, he is not however a repeatedly suspended player. Are we forgetting that this is the same Chara that put Kaleta into the boards from behind last year? Or the one that was apparently excempt from the “automatic” suspension in the first round last year? Let’s review, not only did Chara receive the fighting major, he also got an instigator 2 and 10 for the incident as well. Here is what the NHL rulebook says:
“the suspension shall be served unless, upon review of the incident, the Director of Hockey Operations, at his discretion, deems the incident is not related to the score, previous incidents in the game or prior games, retaliatory in nature, ‘message sending,’ etc.”
That was a joke at the time and more of a joke now. Chara is an absolute goon, that is repeatedly let off the hook because of his size. I’m not even talking about NHL discipline here. He is let off about 5 times in every single game I’ve ever watched of his, for a play that any other player would get a penalty for, but because he is huge and “not dirty” (HA!) he is let go. Then it comes the the NHL’s so-called discipline, where he is always let off the hook, because he is not a repeat offender…really? He is a repeat offender. Even if you aren’t suspended, if your name keeps coming up in these situations, you are a repeat offender. The NHL is a joke because they are inconsistent with their discipline. Dangerous plays should be disciplined, regardless of the track-record of those involved. Gillies gets 10 games for punching Clutterbuck in the head, but Chara puts Max Pacioretty’s career and at the time, life, in jeopardy and he is skating in the next game? Joke.
The saddest thing about this, is that Chara will never even see his justice, because no one will fight him because he’s a giant goon with a 7’ wing span.
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by willgarr15 on Mar 10, 2011 12:58 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Thanks. This topic really gets me going, as you can see by the rant….
The more I thought about the Hjalmarsson-Pominville situation the more similar it seemed to me. Illegal hit + major injury = 2 game suspension, or so I thought…..
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Five years ago one did...
…his name was Maxim Afinogenov. In Game 1 of the Sens-Sabres series in ‘06, Afinogenov had gotten tired of Chara’s shit and boarded him early in the first period. Max got a penalty and the Senators scored on it but Chara was ineffective for the rest of the series and the Sabres put them away in five games.
When Chara is hit by someone he’s not expecting it from, he doesn’t know how to handle it. He becomes completely unglued, just as he did when Max hit him back in the playoffs and when Gerbe stood up to him earlier this year.
For some reason I’m really expecting Nathan Gerbe to have a fantastic game tonight.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
I remember that.
Chara was very ineffective that series. Max shook and rattled him.
Lets Go Buff a lo!!!
I forgot about that
But still, no one has or will challenge him to a fight in a long long time.
"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula
I'd really like to see a Chara/Boogaard fight.
Boogard is probably the only guy who could go toe-to-toe with him in the league.
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Well said...
Even if he didn’t “mean” to do it, it does not mean he is not responsible for what happened. People in real life make mistakes all the time and are held accountable for it, so why is this not true in sports? Of course Chara did not want to severely concuss and fracture Max Pac’s vertebrate, but IT HAPPENED. Therefore, he is guilty and should be punished. Case closed.
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Amen
Nobody ever means to high-stick someone, but they are responsible for their stick anyways, even if it is swatted up by another player. His frame of mind and history aside, he should have been suspended solely for committing an illegal act that caused the injury of another player.
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He backs out of every fight
I’ve seen him challenged by Gaustad, Rivet, probably Montador, buteither Shawn Thornton comes flying in of Chara wriggles out of it and the Sabre ends up with a roughing.

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