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Should Thomas Vanek Play In Game Six

This has been the question that has been on the minds and in the mouths of Sabres fans ever since his incident with Johnny Boychuk. Vanek has missed the last three games, but with the Sabres facing another elimination game in Boston on Monday night, the question now should the Sabres play a Vanek that is clearly not at 100 percent?

The Case For Vanek

The case for Vanek playing in a limited role in this game is fairly simple. The Sabres offense needs all of the help they can get with both Tim Connolly and Derek Roy still held off the scoresheet in this series. The need for offense is there when Jason Pominville and Mike Grier are the team's leading goal scorers with two goals a piece. In Game Five, Drew Stafford played a total of nine minutes, including a handful on the power play. If Vanek were to play, he would be playing the same amount of time on the ice and also play those handful of minutes on the power play. Most Sabres fans would rather have Vanek on the power play and playing those few minutes than Drew Stafford.

Point two is that this is the Stanley Cup Playoffs and the Sabres are one game away from elimination. True leaders avoid injuries and put their bodies on the line when their teams are back against the wall in these situations. Good players become local heroes during these situations and if Vanek is to enjoy the final four years on his current contract, the consideration of playing in this game should be there. 

The Case Against Vanek

Exactly how effective is Vanek going to be if he is playing at 75%. From media reports, we know that Vanek seems to have less issues skating in straight lines but still has issues stopping and turning on a dime. If Vanek is going to play in Game Six, is he going to be more of a defensive liability because he can't move as effectively as he normally can. 

As I said above, players play injured all the time in the Stanley Cup Playoffs, but could there be a long term situation if Vanek reaggravated the injury or makes it worse, it could have a greater effect if the team moves forward in the playoffs or possibly next season. 

Whatever the decision will be, we know that it will be made shortly before the game starts. If Vanek does start, it may give the team enough of a jump to give them an edge against a Boston team that has been very strong at home during this season. When your playoff lives are on the line, any little bit helps. We want to hear your thoughts in the poll below on whether Vanek should play at not 100%

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Should Thomas Vanek play in Game Six if he is not fully healthy
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haha, just to be safe

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Miller’s been looking pretty tired too, you know…

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 26, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t want to ride him too hard afterall…..

by 13_Legion on Apr 26, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

un-rec’d

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by bflo on Apr 26, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes

Though any other situation which involves less Drew Stafford would also be acceptable.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 26, 2010 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

Get him PP time, and limit his 5 on 5 role. Short shifts, but get him out there with the right line. A playmaker and a “tough” guy.

Vanek – Connolly – Grier?

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by bflo on Apr 26, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

No way

Not if the high ankle sprain isn’t healed. he can EASILY re-injury himself and if that’s the case we coudl lose him the rest of hte playoffs if we move on and win the next 2.

he needs to not be in there because he’ll be a liability and his cahnces of reinjuring that are greatly increased. if it was something else i’d say yes – but not the high ankle sprain – it’s a pain the ass kind of injury

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by J2 on Apr 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

We’ve established it cannot possibly be a high ankle sprain because that has a minimum 4-6 week recovery time.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 26, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ding!

And the goal should be to beat Boston. That is the task at hand. There is no tomorrow except on the golf course if they lose tonight. If they make it out of this series I will have no other expectations from them and will have proven to me that they’re on the right track and with the right off-season/mid-season moves can be a contender. Frankly, I think Vanek would play tonight if there’s anyway he can skate from one end of the ice to the other and stand in front of Rask. He just seems like that kind of competitor, ankle be damned.

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by Tom Luongo on Apr 26, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

where did we establish that? didn’t ruff say it was a high ankle sprain?

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by J2 on Apr 26, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, a reporter did.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 26, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

so no one knows then – so how did we establish it wasn’t a high ankle sprain?

could be mild – he could be living in a hyperbaric chamber the last 5 days – NFL players do that all the time to speed up recovery

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by J2 on Apr 26, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do we need him, sure! But...

what we really need, as Zach pointed out, is for Roy and Connolly to step up. Connolly has looked better and better as the series has gone on, I think. His skating seems to have gotten more fluid. Roy is just MIA, which is a real disappointment.
The only worry i would have about Vanek being back and on the PP, is that he will take his usual spot in front of the net and get wacked constantly on those legs…from Rask and anyone else he’s trying to battle. That seems like a pretty high recipe for re-injury to me.

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by cmat on Apr 26, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I expect the ankle will be wrapped in triple-strength bubble wrap if he plays.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 26, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I where you, i would play him. its an elimination game, youve got nothing to lose.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

see comment above

he’s in

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

crap.
I was hoping he wouldnt play.
This helps Buffalo… I am very concerned.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

should be a good game – I’m pretty confident that this will be series

in other words, if I were a Bruins fan I wouldn’t consider it likely that they’d win game 7 in Buffalo if it came to it

so it could come down to this game

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why isn’t Roy playing well? Am I the only one who has liked his game this series? I know he hasn’t put any pucks in the net but he’s been playing hard, he’s been visible, he’s been making things happen with his speed and passing, he’s been fighting in the corners. He’s even been hitting people.. My ONLY problem with Roy has been on the PP where he continues to try and skate through 3-4 defenders. Other than that, I have really loved Roy in this series.

by JSCoope on Apr 26, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven’t loved him, but I certainly think he’s catching too much flak. He’s had a couple of beautiful assists and seems to be playing hard.

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute—- I thought Roy was better than Krejci?

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we showed how he’s been considerably better during the regular season and in the post season Roy has 2 assists and Krejci has a goal and an assist. So they’re about even in the postseason and Roy dominated in the regular season.

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Id take Krejci.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot to mention that in the postseason Krejci is even while Roy is a plus 3.

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel Krejci has the potential to be better than Savard.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, potential. I don’t think he has that potential but that’s obviously entirely subjective.

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watch Krejci every night.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but you probably watch Roy as much as TEMSON watches Krejci.

This is all kind of exciting but the important thing is that there are two teams playing tonight. One has to go back to Buffalo no matter what. One can earn the right to not have to return.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 26, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

True that.

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

…through his bedroom window while he lies sleeping. He’s just beautiful.

by KTyczka on Apr 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, I mean, wait, what?

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa, that is not what i meant.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

tyler ennis leads the team with four points, how about that?

this kid is great to watch with his speed, talent, heart and determination. A future stud for sure.

by Rafal Ladysz on Apr 26, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

The Tylers are going to be building blocks for our team for years.

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by TEMSON on Apr 26, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know – Ennis, Myers and Kennedy :)

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by J2 on Apr 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ennis and Adam. future studs.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Apr 26, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we getting "angry Vanek" back?

I hope so, we need him to be angry Vanek though passive Vanek doesn’t really help us much

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by weswed51 on Apr 26, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Angry Thomas Vanek – ATV

by Traver on Apr 26, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

haha nice.

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by bflo on Apr 26, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he is, world look out. I’m expecting only 50% atv, though, but he’s still better than Drew Stafford.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 26, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So anxious and excited about tonight. Our team seems to play much better with Vanek in the lineup. Let’s get ’em, boys.

by lassathrax on Apr 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

75% Vanek is better than the healthy Stafford we’ve seen this series

This series?? Try the whole season. lol

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by bflo on Apr 26, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah … Drew needs to be gone by next season … along with a few other of these worthless one great game then careers of nothing. Are there any good D-men in Portland because Rivet, Butler, Sekra seem to want out of town.

Tonight will be a 2-0 win for the Sabres … Miller stands on his head with Ennis & Vanek scoring the goals.

Let the mocking begin ………………………………..

by Jedi Dude 28 on Apr 26, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m willing to give stafford one last chance next season, then, trade him to edmonton/atlanta/siberia.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 26, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

edmonton/atlanta/siberia

LOL. Agreed.

by sabre74kkn on Apr 26, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not willing. Send him packing after this year. There are 10+ more players in the system that care more about hockey and are just as talented as Stafford is. Dude has Kotalik written all over him, without the BOMB of a shot.

Hes not a top 6 forward in this organization… and we can get a pick for him instead of having him play on the 3rd or 4th line. He doesnt try in the corners on the top 2 lines, why would he on the grinding lines? Ya know?

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by bflo on Apr 26, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, but he’s young enough that he might come back next year and realize that he needs to try harder if he wants anyone to sign him. His one more chance might only last until November, i’m thinking.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 26, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

His one more chance might only last until November, i’m thinking

That doesnt sound too bad.

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by bflo on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Vanek isn't 100%...

I don’t think he should come back. Despite losing games 2-3-4, I thought the Sabres were in a position to win each of those games. These games have been tight; all of them (except game 5) could have gone to OT. We need healthy bodies. TV can be great, but I’ve seen a lot of games (hell, weeks) that Vanek has been almost invisible. It’s not worth the risk.

by murp0837 on Apr 26, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

They need as many people as they can that can put that puck in the net.

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by UZ on Apr 26, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Sitting Stafford out helps the Sabres no matter who replaces him. Vanek at 25% is worth more than Stafford at 100%. Stafford does not deserve to be in the playoffs, he did not earn that horor during the regular season.

by Geolover on Apr 26, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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