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Sabres Offensive Struggles Start at the Top

Anyone who has watched the Buffalo Sabres play this season realizes the offense is struggling to score goals. Finding the back of the net has become more and more difficult as each season passes.The Sabres had scored over or near three goals a game every season since the lockout and this season they are averaging just 2.67 goals per game.

Year Goals Per Game
2005 - 2006 3.37
2006 - 2007 3.63
2007 - 2008 3.06
2008 - 2009 2.95
2009 - 2010 2.67

 

The Sabres came out of the lockout as a team built with speed in offense. There system worked well when the referees were calling every penalty they could find. It opened up more ice for the skilled players and the Sabres had plenty of forwards that took advantage of the extra room they were given.

As we have moved further away from the lockout the standard for penalties has dropped considerably league wide. After the loss of Danny Briere and Chris Drury, via free agency, the Sabres have adapted a much more defensive style of play.

As fans we are quick to blame the players for the lack of offense but almost every player on the team has seen a decline in their offensive statistics. At some point we have to acknowledge "the system". We have heard so much about the system over the past three seasons that it is part of our vocabulary when talking about the Sabres.

The Sabres missed the playoffs for two consecutive seasons and the post game comments from Jason Pominville and Ryan Miller read like a broken record. After every game we would hear "We didn't play the system", or "We have to do a better job playing the system" or any other variation of not playing the system. We don't hear those quotes quite as often this season and the Sabres are in first place.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

I think the Lindy Ruff system works to win hockey games but it is not always the most entertaining game for fans to watch. We all want to see the Sabres win a Stanley Cup and the players do to, that is why they finally buying into what the coach is selling. This system is not designed for individuals to break records, it is built for the team to win hockey games, and for most of the season they have.

After the jump I have listed the Sabres top forwards career stats to gie you a sense of the drop off in offensive production. Tim Connoly is the only player on the team that is averaging near his potential this season. Some players are worse than others but overall you get a sense of where this team is offensively.

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Derek Roy G A P PPG NHL -82
2005 - 2006   18 28 46 .657 54
2006 - 2007 21 42 63 .840 69
2007 - 2008 32 49 81 1.04 85
2008 - 2009 28 42 70 .854 70
2009 - 2010 17 29 46 .742 61


Thomas Vanek G A P PPG NHL -82
2005 - 2006   25 23 48 .593 49
2006 - 2007 43 41 84 1.02 84
2007 - 2008 36 28 64 .780 64
2008 - 2009 40 24 64 .877 72
2009 - 2010 19 22 41 .695 57


Jason Pominville G A P PPG NHL -82
2005 - 2006   18 12 30 .526 43
2006 - 2007 34 34 68 .780 64
2007 - 2008 27 53 80 .976 80
2008 - 2009 20 46 66 .805 66
2009 - 2010 16 27 43 .694 57


Tim Connolly G A P PPG NHL -82
2001 - 2002   10 35 45 .549 45
2002 - 2003 12 13 25 .305 25
2005 - 2006 16 39 55 .873 72
2007 - 2008 7 33 40 .833 68
2008 - 2009 18 29 47 .979 80
2009 - 2010 15 42 57 .890 73


Drew Stafford G A P PPG NHL -82
2006 - 2007   13 14 27 .658 54
2007 - 2008 16 22 38 .593 49
2008 - 2009 20 25 45 .569 47
2009 - 2010 13 15 28 .475 39


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This system is not designed for individuals to break records, it is built for the team to win hockey games, and for most of the season they have

winning is the only stat I care about – who cares if we win games 1-0 or 2-1?

Just winn baby winn!!!

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 8, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

The System

You nailed it. When we lose, for the most part, I find myself saying, “We didnt play the system.” I hate when they get away from it because you see much more 1 on 1 stuff… and that surely isnt Ruffs idea. The cycle down low, the collapse infront of Miller, the quick, crisp passing, tape to tape out of the zone… thats what I like to see.

The laziness that sometimes creeps into these guys heads is what frustrates me so much. I know theyre a good team, they have been for the better part of last 5 years. But when that laziness hits, I cant help to feel frustrated.

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Over the next 2 weeks we play teams that are all lower against us. I expect us to win 6 of the next 7. @ Detroit will be a tough game, but winnable. This team needs to keep building off these wins, Right now would be a great time to start heating up (Vanek) lol.

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

i'll sacrifice exciting hockey for the sake of a playoff berth anytime

i’m thinking of writing an article to show how big of a slump each individual player is in whether it be in goal-scoring or any point production. kennedy and grier haven’t scored in a while.

by Rafal Ladysz on Mar 8, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

That would be cool.

Yeah Grier hasnt put on in in a long time.

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He did have that awesome assist against the flyers, so i forgive him.

Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism

Free Tyler Ennis!

by Ubiquitous on Mar 8, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that was a nice pass out to Mair for the goal. Im not trying to knock the way hes been playing, because I think he has been… Just wish for a goal or two here and there lol

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, he saves the world every shift.

Goals are nice though, we should just get everyone to score 3 extra. That’d be nice.

Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism

Free Tyler Ennis!

by Ubiquitous on Mar 8, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it sure would

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I looked at some numbers today...

One of the interesting things I found (and put up at my site!) – the Sabres take WAY too small a number of shots on the power play. 22nd in the league 5 on 4, dead last in shots on goal at 5 on 3. You can’t score if you don’t shoot.

I apologize in advance if this gives more people the idea to yell SHOOOOOOOT on the power play.

Honk if you love Justice!
"I'm betting that I'm just abnormal enough to survive. "

by TheTick on Mar 8, 2010 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

haha

Ahh the “Shoooooot!!!!” on the PP guy. Gotta love it. That is interesting, thanks for those numbers. Dead last in 5 on 3 is depressing…

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah man. It’s a small sample size, but there’s no excuse for not shooting more 5 on 3. It’s gotta be a heck of a lot easier to get the rebound when there’s only 3 skaters out to oppose 5.

Honk if you love Justice!
"I'm betting that I'm just abnormal enough to survive. "

by TheTick on Mar 8, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

In my opinion you should be peppering the goalie with shots on a 5 on 3 since you have such a greater percentage of getting the rebound. The reason I think Buffalos 5 on 3 numbers are so low are because with that much open ice, we try to make the “pretty” play, the one too many passes (especailly at home). And it ends up hurting us by turning it over then they clear it… or we have to settle for an easy save type of shot.

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Sabres are having a hard time finding a strategy better than “Ales Kotalik pwns 5 on 3s in 30 seconds”

He may have been a terrible hockey player, but he was amazing on 5 on 3s and shootouts.

Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism

Free Tyler Ennis!

by Ubiquitous on Mar 8, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He did have a “Wicked hahd slapshot” lol

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Hockey, like baseball, was designed to be a defensive sport. High scoring was not the intent of originators. The problem is that there are too many fans who can’t appreciate the subties of a defensive game. For that reason, baseball has lowered the pitcher’s mound and made other rule changes to increase the number of runs per game. Similarly, hockey officials has stopped calling all but the most egegious violations which has resulted in higher scoring and more injuries do to late hits and head shots.

Like football, hockey is a gladiator sport where the fans get a vicarious thrill from the controlled violence perpetrated before them.

by Geolover on Mar 8, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

stopped calling all but the most egegious violations

I disagree. They call hooks, holds, and the like much tighter post-lockout (which I kinda hate). This creates more speed, especially through the neutral zone, which is where these big hits are coming that lead to injuries.

by The Burl 8 on Mar 8, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is that there are too many fans who can’t appreciate the subties of a defensive game.

“Chicks dig the long ball”

It is unfortunate that fans cant enjoy the defenive style more, I know its boring and I think thats where the “diehards” and “casual fan” have the most difference. I know out of my friends that like the Sabres and enjoy watching hockey that Im the only one that I would say is a “diehard” I understand how and why the game is played with a defensive style… my friends, where they root for Buffalo and like to see them win, but would rather see a 6-5 win over a 2-1 win. Where in my book, A win is a win. But most of them are also “since the lockout fans” which would explain that…

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

and since you were referencing the similarities between baseball and hockey...

I would rather see a low scoring, pitching duel over a 10-8 game. But unfortunately Sportscenter pumps us with the idea that we need more scoring in every sport.

And dont get me wrong, I like to see the high scoring games as well… but not all the time, that means we wouldnt have that great of a D… And defense wins championships, offense fills the seats…

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch goal highlights from the 90s and note the number of hooking and interference penalties per play. It’s rediculous.

Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism

Free Tyler Ennis!

by Ubiquitous on Mar 8, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true..

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

just demonstrating the difference between “post lockout egegious fouls” and “things that happened every shift pre-lockout”

Not even the Toronto Maple Leafs could kill my optimism

Free Tyler Ennis!

by Ubiquitous on Mar 8, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

haha.

Definitely can tell the difference between pre and post lockout refereeing.

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Then rewatch those highlights and note how bad the fundamentals of the goalies were. The pucks went in b/c the goalies blew.

Ta,

by Tom Luongo on Mar 8, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i was wondering that myself…..

We got the tools, We got the talent

by J2 on Mar 8, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The system requires all 5 skaters on the ice to back-check and collapse to the front of the net. The object is to force the opposition to take bad shots from the outside.

It is great for Ryan Miller but you can forget about any offense from odd man rushes.

The system is one that the team can win with but goals will be tough to come by. That ia why a player like Torres is perfect for more offense, he will go in the dirty places and create offense.

D.O.
www.diebytheblade.com - An SB nation destination for Sabres fans everywhere

by David Oleksy on Mar 8, 2010 5:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He reminds me of a better, younger Grier. With more of a scoring touch also.

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it also requires (or hopes) the defensemen join the rush. It doesn’t really matter too much though; Lindy will change in a heartbeat to suit his players. He was a trap guy for awhile back in the day, and then emerged (imo) to a pond hockey guy for a little bit. This is the system that sort of links him to Bowman, correct? I swear – those two do remind me of each other.

So let me ask this – is the “system” to blame for the lack of scoring by those top five this year? Personally, I don’t think so. Timmy is producing to a degree, but is so streaky. Vanek is just having one of those snake bitten years, and I think his play is really affected by Roy’s, who along with Stafford just won’t do the things Ruff wants them to do. Ruff just wants them to go to the net, and put pucks on it; they like to dangle. Again, I don’t think that has much to do with a system, but rather just playing good hockey.

Pominville’s play has just been plain old meh. He is certainly not deserving of that new contract he got, at least in my opinion.

Me thinks the “system” does and will work – they can win games. But it’ll be a lot easier if a few of these guys just start playing better hockey, or maybe, just playing like “hockey players.”

by krytime on Mar 8, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Pominville’s play has just been plain old meh. He is certainly not deserving of that new contract he got, at least in my opinion.

He might be the most frustrating player on the team, even more than Vanek. Where has Pommers sniper shot gone? Because I think it left once the ink hit the paper on his deal.

"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST

by bflo on Mar 8, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Vanek is just having one of those snake bitten years, and I think his play is really affected by Roy’s, who along with Stafford just won’t do the things Ruff wants them to do. Ruff just wants them to go to the net, and put pucks on it; they like to dangle. Again, I don’t think that has much to do with a system, but rather just playing good hockey.

You are right that Roy and Stafford aren’t willing to do the things that Ruff wants them to do. They just aren’t that type of player, it doesn’t make them better or worse than guys on other teams it just means they don’t fit the system. I feel the system is a direct reflection of the offensive output of these five players.

 The Sabres play a system that wins games but doesn’t fit some of the players on the roster. Remember that these same players scored goals when the team played an offensive system and now they aren’t scoring. I don’t think it is a coincidence.

D.O.
www.diebytheblade.com - An SB nation destination for Sabres fans everywhere

by David Oleksy on Mar 8, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Penalties

Well done. I have been saying this for a year or so….you can see the number of calls being ignored increasing in front of our eyes: the “crackdown” lasts only so long….no consistency year to year leads to difficult planning and we had a tough transition year back to the ugly play. But Ruff has them on the good and ugly Devils-type defensive plan now.

It’d be nice if they league had refs continue to call the game tight and players would keep playing cleaner. The game is prettier, but can still have tough hits….in my mind, the interference on dump-ins and the can-openers now being allowed on a minor level serve no purpose in the game, but making it ugly and easier on defensemen.

by Brendan D on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

contradicting

You guys kind of sound contradicting in this thread of posts. On one hand you collectively state you enjoy pre lock out hockey where scoring was low. On the other hand you seem to have the attitude of frustration towards Ruff’s system, or at least the lack of offensive production from the household names. You have to realize in this system the Sabres are going to win games in low scoring fashion, ie. the last two games. Albeit, ugly wins but W’s nonetheless. Trust me, I would feel more comfortable myself if they were winning 5-1 every night as well but you have to buy into the fact that that is not going to happen…with the current “system.”

Get rid of the ugly slug.

by North Java Sabra on Mar 8, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

shoooot

i have no problem with winning 2-1 games either, but i dont think the system is ENTIRELY to blame for our goals per game, because i also have no problem with anyone who screams “shoooooot!” at these guys. it also seems like anyone without the puck is a step behind. but if Ryan and defensive hockey get us the 2-4 seed, i think we should all be happy campers.

by BigRedRobbinHood on Mar 9, 2010 4:29 AM EST reply actions  

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