Choose Your Winger: Drew Stafford Or Mark Mancari?
"A good period of time." Those were the words of head coach Lindy Ruff when discussing Drew Stafford's groin injury and how long he will be out of action. Jumping onto the first line, Mark Mancari has played the last two games with Derek Roy and Thomas Vanek putting himself in a tremendous position.
The 24-year-old was mediocre in New York on Sunday but tallied a goal and an assist yesterday against the Dallas Stars with a superb plus-three rating to top it off. All four lines are balanced very well for the time being as the top two units can score, the third trio has the right amount of grit and offensive potential with Raffi Torres' addition and the fourth line sees two veterans assisting a rookie.
If Stafford healed quickly and was prepared for his return, would you as the coach, insert him into the line-up or experiment further with Mancari? They're both the same age but Mancari is slightly bigger. Stafford owns a great package of size and talent but hasn't truly grabbed his potential by the throat.
The decision is yours to make, what would it be?
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I like the way Mancari played last night, but let him put together a few more games before we annoint him our top line RW. Im not sold on Stafford, and I doubt many of you are either… so he has that going for him. If he plays well down the stretch then this is another “good problem” to have going into the playoffs.
"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
I agree
but i’m also not sure if Mancari can build on last night. Even if he does (which is what I’m hoping for), what happens when he gets too comfortable up in Buffalo? Does he stop digging in the corners and slack defensively? I hope that the allure of a permanent stay in the big leagues will keep him working hard, because he obviously has talent. Also, I’m just wondering here, but didn’t Drew Stafford come up in a similar situation, kind of late in the season, and then stay through the playoffs and beyond? Just curious.
what happens when he gets too comfortable up in Buffalo? Does he stop digging in the corners and slack defensively?
Great question. And I would have to say that, thats what looks like has happened with Stafford. Having those two play against each other (for playing time) is a good thing to have. They are similar players and both seem to have a slight “motavational” problem (that might not be the best way to explain that, so hopefully you guys see what im trying to say there lol) But those two I believe are going to push each other. No one wants to be to oddman out, so make the decision a tough one for the Ruff one.
"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
As much as I want to love Stafford I just can’t quite get there. I see flashes of incredible play (remember that behind the back between the legs deke that he scored on from last year?) mixed with flashes of “oh, Staffords on the ice? where?”…. I just don’t think he’s a Power Foward, more like a big skill player.
Stafford owns a great package of size and talent but hasn’t truly grabbed his potential by the throat.
while i’m not the best judge of hockey players (although I’m about 1 inch from buying a Kaleta jersey) I would rather take a guy that works hard than a guy with talent that doesn’t either a) put in the effort or b) just doesn’t get the team strategy
We got the tools, We got the talent
I think there is room for both Mancari and Stafford. I think when Gaustad and Stafford get healthy the lines will look something like this.
1- Vanek, Roy, Mancari
2- Hecht, Connolly, Pominville
3- Grier, Kennedy, Stafford
4- Torres, Gaustad, Kaleta
Either Grier or Stafford would have to move to the left, but that’s not a big problem. I think Grier could help kick Staff in the pants and get him going too. It’s not bad having very capable guys like Mair and Ellis to come out of the box in case of injury too.
Actually I think I’d keep Grier and Torres together and either put Gaustad or Kennedy between them. Than I’d put Stafford in the Press box and put Mair with Kaleta and whoever you don’t put between Grier and Torres. Mair deserves to be playing more than Stafford. Hell Mair deserves to be playing more than Pominville but there is no way Ruff benches Pominville unless he gets injured.
@Zack:
I agree. I think that they both should stay, but give Mancari some time and make sure that he is for real.
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Both are flawed players
Mancari can’t skate at this level and plays like he’s 5’8" 160 lbs
and Stafford is the tin man – no heart
Good question Raf...
And I love a good question. My answer is….neither? Here’s a few of my comments on your guys comments.
They’re both the same age but Mancari is slightly bigger.
That was from Raf. Don’t know why, but I thought Mancari was older than he is; he’s a few months older than Stafford. Like OL in football, I think power forwards in hockey need time to get the game. I keep forgetting how young these guys are.
but let him put together a few more games before we annoint him our top line RW. Im not sold on Stafford, and I doubt many of you are either…
From bflo. Totally agree with you here. But then I flip flop back to thinking how young they are.
I hope that the allure of a permanent stay in the big leagues will keep him working hard
Agreed there tpsabres. How can it not? The difference in paychecks has to be so obvious, that when Lindy says “jump,” he should respond “how high?” But some guys just don’t get that, and sometimes you can spot that right away. Sometimes you can’t.
I just don’t think he’s a Power Foward, more like a big skill player.
From JSCoope – best simple description of Stafford I’ve ever read. No offense, but I will be ripping that off in email exchanges with some of my pals, and will probably take credit for the phrase. I’d offer you in exchange some of my “good words,” but I don’t think any of them are really “copy and paste” worthy. Sorry, and thank you.
We will have to wait and see if Mancari is for real.
Yes Geolover, that’s correct, at least in my book. Did I see this right though – you posted something without actually killing the team? Are you turning the corner on this team a little bit? Just a little, little, little bit maybe?
Personally, I haven’t been a fan of Mancari. But again, I forget how young he is. Maybe the light finally turns on. This goes for Stafford as well. We’re not asking for much. Just play hard every shift, hit some people, and score a few ugly goals. Backcheck too. That’s it; not too much in our opinion. There are certainly worse ways to make a living.
And if they really want to win a crowd over, drop the gloves every so often. It’s not that bad. In my book, there are three ways to get a whole crowd of 18,000 standing on their feet crazily cheering for you. One, score the game changing goal. Two, make a flurry of incredible saves. And three, throw some haymakers at your opponents face.
Has Mancari ever been known to throw down before? I remember when Stafford stepped in when Dirtbag Chris Neil hit Drury. But thats the last time I remember him going at it with someone. It would be nice to see someone not, Kaleta, Mair or Goose in a fight… At the right moment of course, not just for the hell of it. Didnt Hecht fight an Ottawa player 2 days after the “Line Brawl game” in the rematch?
"Its always Miller Time
Whens it gonna be Sabres-Offense Time?"
- by Jsz on Mar 3, 2010 6:25 PM PST
I love seeing players who are not known to fight get pissed off and drop the gloves. Remember when Afinogenov fought Williams? I couldn’t believe that shit. Needs to happen more often, players need to get into the game. So many times we watch the Sabres just suck it up and deal with other teams crashing Miller, or making runs at our skill players, or cross checking anyone who touches the puck in the slot. As we all know you can’t trust the referees to stand up for you. I always think if I were in the Sabres shoes during those games, I’d get really pissed and drop the gloves — even if it meant a 100% chance of getting my ass kicked. Even if you lose the fight, you’re still sending the message to ‘stop fucking with us,’ and your team will rally behind you and play with more intensity

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