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Die by the Blade: Buffalo Sabres Roundtable

Inspired by the outstanding work done on the SB Nation.com hockey roundtable discussion, we decided to do one ourselves and discuss some Buffalo Sabres topics. The chat featured all five writers and was largely a success except for my personal epic failure. When transferring the chat to a word document I lost half of the original conversation. I will do my best to recreate the first part of the chat and will allow you to read the second half in it's entirety.

The topics we discussed were rivals, Tyler Myers chances of winning the Calder Trophy, the single most important reason for the Sabres success, the trade deadline and Patrick Kaleta.

The Sabres/Leafs rivalry gets plenty of publicity in the media but what team is the team you have a hatred for?

I expected at least one of us to say the Maple Leafs but not one of us did. The most popular answer was the Ottawa Senators. The Senators have been a thorn in the Sabres side for years and of course the Chris Neil hit on Chris Drury just adds fuel to the fire.

Dave Davis went in a different direction with the Philadelphia Flyers. There is a rivalry dating back to the 70's between the Flyers and the Sabres so it's easy to see why he made that selection. The Carolina Hurricanes were also mentioned as a runner up, mostly because of their fans during the 2005-2006 Conference Finals.

 

What has been the most important reason for the Sabres success this season?

This was a consensus pick of Ryan Miller. Any thought of any other reason was quickly shot down and rightfully so. Miller has been unbelievable this season and will garner plenty of attention for the Vezina Trophy.

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Tyler Myers is starting to attract national attention for the Calder Trophy. Should he be considered the front runner at this point of the season?

Although it wasn't unanimous there was plenty of support for Myers to be the front runner for the award. Obviously John Tavares was mentioned as a candidate and Matt Duchene and James van Riemsdyk were a part of the conversation as well.

 

The Sabres are obviously making a run towards the playoffs and will be looking to improve at the trade deadline. What do the Sabres need to improve the team at the deadine?

The conversation started with the thought of a quarterback for the powerplay. The name Sergei Gonchar was brought up and that is where we will pick up the conversation.

Rafal: Yes, Gonchar will be an unrestricted free agent.

Rafal: I'm not sure how much cap space we have but I think we'd be just able to afford him.

Dave_Davis: What's with the obsession to change the defense?  Who are you going to sit?

Zach_Z.: I know that this has been shot down a couple of times, but I would consider bringing Kovalchuk to the Sabres if we can sign him long term

Rafal: No obsession, but we need a powerplay quarterback.

Zach_Z.: According to Cap Geek, we can take on a contract of $4.5 million for the rest of the season

David_Oleksy: True but the Pens will be competing for the Cup as well. Would they trade him to a team they will be competing against?

Zach_Z.: Dave is right though, any deal that is made will have to see a handful of defensemen moving in return

Rafal: The rumor was they won't be able to re-sign him.

Andy_Boron: With all the youth and long-term deals we have on the team, I wouldn't want to see them mortgage the future in an all-or-nothing deal for Kovalchuk

David_Oleksy: If you move defenseman it would be risky. We just talked about the system helping Miller and moving those parts could create a bad situation.

Rafal: Who says we have to move a defenseman for Gonchar?

David_Oleksy: We already have eight defenseman. Someone would have to go.

Zach_Z.: The team is carrying eight of them already, we need to move at least one

Zach_Z.: Even if you want to get Weber in the lineup next season, you have to move one.

Rafal: I could see Lydman maybe going in return.

 

David_Oleksy: Going back to Kovalchuk. Didn't he criticize Lindy Ruff for his treatment of Afinogenov? Would he really be able to succeed in the Sabres system?

Rafal: It's hard to say. Kovalchuk isn't exactly a model defensive player and that's something Ruff likes to see from his players. The comments aren't a big deal in my eyes but I couldn't picture it working

Zach_Z.: I think any player with that kind of talent can succeed in any type of system. Bringing him to this team would be contingent on signing a long term deal though which might be hard to do

Dave_Davis: Absolutely 100% no way he ever comes here and it's silly to even discuss it further.  He wants ridiculous money and is in no way a good fit.  Sorry but I cringe every time I hear talk about him coming

Andy_Boron: But with the freewheeling reputation of Russian stars, can he be the cog in Ruff's machine or will it upset the balance? Personally I think it would be exciting but frustrating, much like Max.

Dave_Davis: no, no and no

Rafal: Kovalchuk is no enigma, he'll produce where ever he plays but he doesn't backcheck well and it shows.

David_Oleksy: I agree with Mr. Davis. I can't see him working out in Buffalo. I see a Slava Kozlov scenario all over again.

 

David_Oleksy: We can't have a discussion without talking about Patrick Kaleta. Did anyone picture the offensive output he has given the team this year? Has it been luck or has he improved as a player?

Rafal: He's gotten better and he mentioned his efforts in improving his hands because checking wasn't all he could depend on. I can see him being someone like an Alex Burrows in Vancouver.

Dave_Davis: I remember the first game I saw Kaleta play and thinking about how awful a skater he was.  He's improved a lot in that area and I think that's been the main reason for his improvement.

David_Oleksy: Alex Burrows? Those are lofty expectations. Burrows has become one of the best players on the Canucks.

Rafal: With the help of the Sedins.

Andy_Boron: Remember, dude is only 23! He seemed to have been labeled very early in his career but he still has plenty of time to improve as a player. Also, he has made the most of his limited opportunities.

Andy_Boron: some of his teammates can say

Dave_Davis: But no he's not a perennial 20 goal scorer.  Instead of 4-5 goals he could net 10-15 per year.

Dave_Davis: (Kaleta)

Rafal: Burrows wouldn't be a 20-goal guy without the Sedins. That's my point.

 

David_Oleksy: What about his goal celebration, any thoughts?

Dave_Davis: I think he should lose it.

Zach_Z.: It doesn't bother me in the slightest

Rafal: I could live without it. Frankly, I don't care.

Zach_Z.: It almost reminds me of what Briere would do when he would score

Andy_Boron: I love it, and think it fits his pesky personality. Anything (in good taste) that makes the other team hate him more is fine with me.

David_Oleksy: I read somewhere that he was inspired by Kawicka Mitchell. The two are neighbors and discussed celebrations.

Rafal: I saw that too. I think it was written around the day he scored two goals against New York including the first shorty.

 

David_Oleksy: Since we are concluding the West Coast trip I want to get your thoughts. The games have been great for the site but what are your personal thoughts on the late starts?

Rafal: The only bad start was in Anaheim in terms of the Western opponents. But we came back and a quick whistle cost us a chance at two points.

David_Oleksy: I love the late starts and I always have. I'm not sure exactly why but I love staying up late to watch the games.

Rafal: Oh, i thought you meant late starts in how the Sabres play to start the game.

David_Oleksy: We should probably talk about that as well but we are running out of time.

Rafal: The late starts don't bother me, I'm up for getting a rare look at the Western clubs and their stars.

Andy_Boron: For a guy who usually goes to bed at 10:30 (stupid job) the late starts are kind of annoying. But is has been fun to be in the huge game threads until I fall asleep on the couch.

Zach_Z.: I can't stay up late so I miss most of the game but it is nice to see the West coast teams everyonce in a while

 

David_Oleksy: Which Sabres forward has been the most impressive this season?

David_Oleksy: I have to say Tim Connolly and it's only partly because of his recent streak.

Rafal: A healthy Tim Connolly is a huge boost and it's almost as if we signed a new player with his play and ability to dodge injuries for a change.

David_Oleksy: I always thought Connolly makes everyone around him better and he has done that this season.

Zach_Z.: I think Connolly has always been a great player that has had his fair share of injuries

Andy_Boron: When he's on he's on, but let's all remember those 12 or so games before this where he only had a point or two. Hopefully this streak never ends.

David_Oleksy: Maybe not most impressive but biggest surprise would have to be Patrick Kaleta.

Rafal: Definitely.

Zach_Z.: I'm not sure I'm overly impressed by this offense but I would have to say that the most disappointing has to be Vanek

Dave_Davis: Vanek has to get back to being the top forward or this team won't go far in the playoffs

Rafal: Let's hope he has a strong second half like he did in 2008

David_Oleksy: I think Mike Grier has to be part of the discussion as well. I can't help but wonder if things would have been different if he stayed here in 2006-2007.

Rafal: No offensive problem in 2006-2007 but we could've used him for sure.

David_Oleksy: The offense was there but he brings intangibles that can't be measured on ice.

 

We hope you enjoyed this conversation and we hope you will add your thoughts as well. We will try to do another one of these chats later in the season when there are new topics to discuss.

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As for the forwards I would have to be most impressed with Kaleta. Connolly is finally playing like the player he was expected to be when he was drafted. Kaleta, OTOH, has seriously exceeded everyone’s expectations. Also, I’d love to put Goose on this list but that knee injury has really thrown off his game. He hasn’t been the same player since it happened, otherwise he’d be looking at 20+ goals without a doubt, and that would be seriously above any rational projections for him.

Other than that, good read guys.

Ta,

by Tom Luongo on Jan 25, 2010 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

Hecht is another forward that I have been impressed with this year. Hes disappeared a few times year, but I’d rather have him disappear than have me swearing at the TV at him lol. Hes played much better this year than the previous 2.

But yes Connolly is #1 right now.

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by bflo on Jan 25, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't mind chipping in a little here...notoriously of course.
what team is the team you have a hatred for?

While I completely understand where Davis is coming from, I’m going with the consensus choice, Ottawa. I know Alfredsson is the face of that franchise, but everytime “Ottawa” pops into my head, I imagine the smug look of Bryan Smolinski in the famous 7-6 game. That’s enough to inspire hatred in anyone, let alone a whole team.

What has been the most important reason for the Sabres success this season?

Absolutely no doubt it’s Miller. Not only is he getting attention for the Vezina, I think if he keeps this up, he might even get a couple of Hart votes as well.

Calder Trophy

I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say Myers is on the short list for this. It’s ridiculous to think that only a few months ago many of us (myself included) thought it be best for him to stay in juniors, and now, he’s leading the squad in TOI.

What do the Sabres need to improve the team at the deadine?

I’ve been banging on bringing in another top six forward. A “sandpaper” kind of guy like Ruff likes to say, who could produce on the PP. Shane Doan is the guy I would love to get, but that’s probably a pipe dream.

I’m against the Kovalchuk ideas, completely. And I’d bet Regier is too. First, no way would they dedicate that percentage of the cap (assuming Ilya’s going to get his 10/yr) to one guy. Second, I don’t think Darcy is high on some Euros. I remember hearing an interview with him this year where he talked about having guys from several different countries on the team, and how it didn’t seem to fit in the locker room. It seemed (to me at least) that he kind of preferred to keep his team filled with Canucks and Americans.

Nice find by Zach, from gap geek. I was wondering what that number was, and was too lazy to look it up. How does that number change with each game played?

I’m also against Gonchar. Just never liked the guy. Plus, we have too many guys on defense already.

One question I wish you guys would have addressed when talking about trades, is who would you be willing to part with? There’s a ton of depth on defense in the farm system, and they have a couple of extra picks now from the Paille trade. To get something, you have to give up something, and I could see guys like Roy and Stafford amongst the forward ranks and Hank and Toni from the defense as having some trade value, and guys who I wouldn’t cry about not being here anymore. I’d view Roy and Stafford as a couple of big pawns, and Hank and Toni as playoff rentals to another team.

For the record, I’d love to see them ship out either 5 or 10. I highly doubt either will be signed next year, and I am always a fan of getting something for nothing. I could see them hanging on to both though, especially if they think they have a team that has a chance to make a cup run. And by the way, I think Weber is having an awesome season in Portland. He’s a ridiculous +17 on a mediocre AHL team. I’d really like to know if he’s ready to step up to the NHL this season if one of those two aforementioned guys gets traded.

talking about Patrick Kaleta

Aside from Myers, no doubt he’s the biggest surprise on this team. I think he just got pigeon-holed as a small goon, and wasn’t given any credit for having talent. If you ask me, he’s a very good skater, and he’s just getting better. I don’t think he’ll ever be a top six forward, but he could be a darn good third liner. Is it a bad idea to consider signing him to a long term deal now? You might never get him cheaper..

personal thoughts on the late starts

Absolutely love ‘em. I have a varied work schedule, and these fit in perfect for me. I watch a lot of games DVR style, and these work for me. Plus, they do make you realize how good Jeanneret is when listening/watching the opposing team’s feed.

Which Sabres forward has been the most impressive this season?

I don’t think the answer would’ve been Connolly fifteen games ago, but it is now. Dude’s playing well, and has helped Hecht get off the schneid, even if he was playing well with Grier and Kennedy prior to being paired with TC and Pommer. Hopefully, he continues to stay healthy.

Is it silly to think Vanek can’t get to forty goals this year? It might be, but it wouldn’t shock me. I don’t think he’s been playing as bad as some suggest. Sure, the numbers don’t look great, but I still think he’s having a good year, and is “this close” to breaking out. He’s taken for granted in my book. He’s considered elite by some, yet spends his time taking a beating in front of the net. Usually, elite guys stay away from that neck of the woods. I applaud him for that. If he gets hot for the playoffs, this team is a lot better for it.

Honorable mention definitely goes to Grier, just for those intangibles. Kennedy gets a tip of the hat too, just because we (I) didn’t expect anything from him this year. I thought for sure he’d be a Pirate.

Here’s a few more questions I’d have thrown your guys way:

- Thoughts on Kassian. Reports on him haven’t really been glowing, and then the 20 gamer hit him. Is there a chance he may have been a bad pick?

- Was/is the Paille trade a good one? Might he have looked better on the fourth line than either Ellis or Mair?

- Has Rivet begun to lose a step?

- What are Ruff’s/Regier’s contract status? And how important is it to keep them together?

- I thought I read somwhere that the slug logo was going away next year. Is that true?

- How’s the attendance this year? It’s something I haven’t paid attention to at all. Are they making loot?

- I’ve really noticed a lot of fans sporting a #57 jersey as of late. Good for them recognizing a talent that should be here for a long time. Is there a chance he changes the number though, and goes with something more traditional?

- Is there a trade freeze during the Olympics? And if so, when does it start?

- I’m good with sticking with Lalime. Earlier in the year, I entertained the notion of bringing back Biron. After seeing him play, I’m not so sure now.

- Was wondering if the Rochester/Buffalo relationship could ever be resurrected?

- I bet a bottle of bourbon with one of my friends that the Sabres would make the playoffs this year. Do I really have to wait until I see an “X” next to them in the standings before I can gloat?

Good job on the round table session fellas. You all should do more of these..

by krytime on Jan 25, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

everytime "Ottawa" pops into my head, I imagine the smug look of Bryan Smolinski in the famous 7-6 game

Completely agree. That face has stuck in my mind ever since that game. Im so happy we won that game, for many obvious reasons… but his smile made me want to punch thru the tv lol.

Im also impressed with Weber and what hes doing up in Portland… just keep it up and with a few injuries he might find his way back up to Buffalo.

Has Rivet begun to lose a step?

Ive found myself saying that during a few games this year… which would mean to me that he is starting to lose a step or two.

Im hesistant to order a Myers jersey or t-shirt because I think he will change it to a “normal” number… but maybe he sticks with it?

Kennedy gets a tip of the hat too, just because we (I) didn’t expect anything from him this year. I thought for sure he’d be a Pirate.

I as well wasnt expecting him to be up the whole time… I originally thought “oh nice a local kid gets his shot in the bigs but he’ll be back to Portland soon” … not happening.

Also I heard about the death of the slug and theyll be going to our 3rd jersey as our normal with a white version for the road obviously. FINALLY!!!! haha

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by bflo on Jan 25, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

death of the slug

I have just heard people talking about that here and there. Do you have any “concrete” proof, as I have none? I’d be thrilled if this was true..

by krytime on Jan 25, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It is just rumor at this point

Larry Quinn was on WGR not too long ago and hinted that the uniforms would be changing.

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by David Oleksy on Jan 25, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Its an old link, but from Howard Berger thru Icethetics:

http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2009/12/14/jerseywatch-2010.html

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by Zachary Zielonka on Jan 25, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I remember reading it on WGR. I hope we stick with 3rd and bring a white version of that. Its such a sharp looking sweater. I think they did a good job updating the old school logo.

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by bflo on Jan 26, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Keeping my fingers crossed

although I did break down and get a slug decal for the back window of my truck, that can always be scraped off and replaced :P

by The Burl 8 on Jan 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

In terms of the Cap Geek stuff, http://www.capgeek.com/tracker/

It changes daily depending on the roster and how many games a team has played.

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by Zachary Zielonka on Jan 25, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Few things get me as jazzed as a super long Kry post. And that realization has made me kind of sad and ruined the experience of reading it.

I’m against the Kovalchuk ideas, completely

Abso-frickin-lutely. If Buffalo is going to add somebody for a playoff push, it has to be someone who fits in with the locker room, buys into Ruff’s system and handles his defensive responsibilities. I agree that there’s no use for a defenseman too.

I think Kennedy deserves some mention as the most impressive forward based on how surprising he’s been too. Good two way player, especially for a little guy.

I think Kassian is young and will learn from the suspension. Corey Tropp got a huge suspension last year for a brutal slash and now he’s a real candidate for the Hobey Baker.

I was always a Paille fan (actually got a Paille jersey), so I’ll never be a fan of that trade. I can see the logic behind the move though.

I wouldn’t worry about Ruff and Regier’s contracts. They’re not going anywhere. They have absurd job security here and would be nuts to go somewhere else.

- I bet a bottle of bourbon with one of my friends that the Sabres would make the playoffs this year. Do I really have to wait until I see an "X" next to them in the standings before I can gloat?

Absolutely not. Start gloating about a month ago.

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by kaisertown on Jan 26, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

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