Lets Make a Deal: Sabres' Possible Trading Partners
With all of the moves that Darcy has made in the past few weeks, it is starting to look more and more like there is a trade in the works. The main question though is who? Who has the assets that we need and the cap space to make the deal work. Lets look at the state of the league to see who has the cap space.
Least Likely to Deal (Cap space less than $1 million)
Ottawa - Cap Space of -$563,333, 22 players signed; San Jose - Cap Space of -$332.497, 19 players signed; Philadelphia - Cap Space of $372,085, 22 players signed; Detroit - Cap Space of $529,347, 22 players signed
These four teams basically have their rosters in place at the moment. The Senators and Sharks need to work themselves under the cap and the Sharks have three less players signed compared to the other three teams. The Senators are still trying to work a deal out with some team to take Heatley off of their hands but at this point in the season no one seems interested. The Sabres are going to be looking to dump some salary in the process of trading and hence these teams probably are not on the radar unless they want to take some salary in return.
Better options come after the jump.
Possible Trading Partners (Cap space between $1 million and $6 million)
Boston - Cap Space of $1,131,668, 22 players signed; Edmonton - Cap Space of $1,176,667, 23 players signed; Washington - Cap Space of $1,312,707, 23 players signed; Calgary - Cap Space of $1,422,168, 23 players signed; Chicago - Cap Space of $1,431,752, 23 players signed; Pittsburgh - Cap Space of $1,811,667, 21 players signed; Toronto - Cap Space of $2,171,668, 23 players signed; Montreal - Cap Space of $2,225,443, 23 players signed; Rangers - Cap Space of $2,520,834, 21 players signed; Vancouver - Cap Space of $2,660,834, 23 players signed; Carolina - Cap Space of $2,770,835, 20 players signed; Anaheim - Cap Space of $4,063,335, 23 players signed; Minnesota - Cap Space of $4,217,224, 22 players signed; New Jersey - Cap Space of $5,179,167, 22 players signed.
This large list of teams look to be pretty much set with their rosters heading into training camp but could take on a little extra salary. That being said, none of these teams are setup for a salary dump and therefore the Sabres are going to have to send someone back in return. Only two teams have less than 22 players signed, Carolina and Pittsburgh. Both teams could use another defenseman so either Tallinder or Lydman would probably be the centerpiece of the package. Carolina could send in return Sergei Samsonov who is coming off his best season since 2002. With a cap hit of $2,533,333, the Sabres could gain some cap space and could gain some more if they made a Tallinder and Hecht package. The most likely trade with the Hurricanes could be Samsonov and a third for Tallinder and Hecht.
Pittsburgh has the same look with defensemen but have less of a need for forwards. Sending Lydman to the Penguins for picks could be an option but not one that seems very likely.
Probable Trading Partners (Cap Space greater than $6 million)
Florida - Cap space of $7,655,000, 19 players signed; St. Louis - $8,810,002, 23 players signed; Colorado - Cap space of $8,991,667, 21 players signed; Los Angeles - Cap space of $9,436,668, 21 players signed; Atlanta - Cap space of $10,376,117, 23 players signed; Dallas - Cap space of $10,543,334, 22 players signed; Columbus - Cap space of $11,460,141, 22 players signed; Tampa Bay - Cap space of $11,895,587, 22 players signed; Phoenix - Cap space of $14,135,001, 23 players signed; Nashville - Cap space of $15,254,167, 20 players signed; Islanders - Cap space of $18,749,934, 23 players signed.
Most of these teams have the cap space to take on a salary dump and some of these teams have room for the players to actually play. Florida, Los Angeles and Nashville are some teams to take a look at.
With Florida, the idea of trading for David Booth has come up before. Booth is a good player with a large contract. Booth's $4,250,000 cap hit is until the 2013-14 season and that is if the team doesn't buy him out. There aren't many players that the Panthers would want in return. Stafford is the most likely candidate, hence the Booth for Stafford article last week, but the trade most likely wouldn't happen.
Los Angeles has a lot of young players that could make an impact on any team. They would need to trade for a veteran presence in the lineup and Lydman would probably be the first player offered. Frolov would be a good player and would come at the cheap, cap hit of $2,900,000. Also another option for grit and toughness would be Matt Greene, defenseman signed until 2013-14 with a cap hit of $2,950,000.
Nashville could use a defenseman badly. Sending Lydman or Tallinder there would not be a bad thing but they wouldn't have much to send in return. Dumont could come back to town but I would assume that there would be a frosty relationship there. Most likely there would be a player for picks deal if that came up.
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I love David Booth but he just signed an extension and will probably be going nowhere. Any way we can get out aging D out of here is fine by me.
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by Blackcapricorn on Aug 19, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno if i were the sabres i’d try and get Dumont if they were going to make that trade over picks.
by gdiggidy13 on Aug 19, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, let’s just try to assemble the entire team from 2001. Got Grier already.
I don’t know if he’ll even want to come back. I love him as a player and he would definitely contribute.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 19, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I think that samsonov trade would be dynamite, but I, for one and probably the only one, would be sad to see Hecht go. I liked him as a player and a leader, and it was unfortunate that he dropped off last season. I think he was really great at getting us out of our own end and being a tough two way guy throughout his career. Tallinder has been on a 2 year downswing and hasn’t been the shutdown lineman he once was for a while. But gaining cap space and dumping two Sabres that have definitely dropped off while getting a pretty good veteran forward is something that Reiger should at least try to do.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Aug 19, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just dont see us trading just a Dman we have way to many forwards to get another one if we add Dumont to the mix we would have Pommy Stafford Grier and him which to me sounds like an amazing right side just were would that leave Kaleta? We need to get rid of some offense as well as some D in my opinion.
by mitch400214 on Aug 19, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it’s realistic to think that Carolina would be willing to trade Samsonov and a third for Hecht and Tallinder. 3,250,000 and 3,800,000 – those are big numbers.
Even considering the idea that Carolina would be losing Samsonov’s 2,533,333 contract – they’d be picking up 4,516,667 in total payroll and 3,554,167 in salary cap. Coolman says they have 2,770,835 in cap space, I think it’s actually less, but either way they wouldn’t have the cap room for that trade. And that’s not even considering the idea that they’d likely view the trade as just picking up dead weight.
The same logic works for the Booth deal – if we’re trying to dump salary why would we pick up a 4,250,000 contract, certainly much more then we could sign Stafford for.
Minnesota only has 5 defensemen signed, they might be interested in Lydman and a defensive forward like Hecht. Maybe we could slip them to Minny for Andrew Brunette, a veteran and pretty consistent 20 goal scorer at a reasonable price of 2,333,333, and a pick. Minny could fit the salary in and they’re rebuilding anyway, not likely but probably more likely then convincing Carolina to go over the salary cap for Tallinder and Hecht I think – Lydman has more value then Tallinder and Minny plays so defensively they might value Hecht more then others would.
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by TEMSON on Aug 19, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is less than that, when I grabbed those numbers that is where Carolina was sitting but now they have $500,000 less in cap space while picking up another player.
You are probably right with Carolina and I never bothered to check Minnesota but they would work as well.
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by Zachary Zielonka on Aug 19, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minny isnt that bad of an idea never would of thought of them
by mitch400214 on Aug 20, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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