Ruff Left With Tough Decisions
On Monday night the Buffalo Sabres made headlines by signing free agent forward Mike Grier. The signing was another move that was aimed at changing the makeup of the team and making them tougher. While helping to solve one problem it created another. Signing Grier made the Sabres a tougher team but it also created a logjam at the forward position.
The Sabres now have 13 NHL forwards under contract and that number doesn't include restricted free agent Drew Stafford. When Stafford signs (and I think he will) the Sabres will have 14 NHL ready forwards to fill 12 open spots in the lineup. Only 12 players will dress on a nightly basis but they are likely to keep 13 and could possibly push that to 14 if they felt it was necessary.
The number of NHL-ready forwards is at 14 but that number jumps to 17 when you include restricted free agent Mark Mancari (if he signs), AHL rookie of the year Nathan Gerbe and Tim Kennedy who led all AHL rookies in points last season. All three players will be given every opportunity to make the team but it would be purely speculative to think that any of them is good enough to play in the NHL this season.
Having so many players could be easily be looked at as a problem but it could also be turned into a positive. Right from the outset there will be stiff competition among the players to make the roster. It will force every single player to give 100% at training camp and will hopefully make each of them better players.
There will be people on both sides of this topic. Take a look at the arguments for both sides and decide what you think about the Sabres forward situation.
Sabres Have Too Many Forwards
The argument can be made that the Sabres have too many players to fill too few positions. This means that good players are going to be left without a roster spot. This means that good players would be wasted in Portland or worse yet they could lose some players via waivers.
Cody McCormick was signed to a two-way contract and becomes a likely candidate to start the season in Portland. McCormick was brought to Buffalo to add toughness and he will have trouble doing that in Portland.
I'll lump Nathan Gerbe and Tim Kennedy together because they both have huge expectations but they can both be sent back to Portland without the worries of waivers. This makes it likely that both players will start the season in Portland no matter how well they perform in training camp. It would be a shame to see such talented players wasted in Portland because they can be sent down without waivers.
Mark Mancari is another player that was a standout in Portland but he hasn't played much in the NHL up till this point in his career. Mancari might be ready to make the jump to the NHL but he could be pushed out because of a numbers game. Mancari would have to clear waivers to be sent to Portland, meaning there would be a possibility of losing him to another team.
Matt Ellis spent some time in Portland last season and he could be a candidate to be sent down again this season. Like Mancari, Ellis would have to clear waivers to be sent down.
There is Never Too Much Depth
This is the flip side of the argument. If players like McCormick, Mancari, Gerbe and Kennedy are playing in Portland it will make the team better in the long run. Only a handful of players were able to play the entire season without missing time to injury last season. Having players like Gerbe and Kennedy ready to step in at a moments notice will be huge for the Sabres.
Remember that a couple of seasons ago the Sabres started the season with Jason Pominville and Derek Roy in Rochester. Both players were called up due to injury and they were key parts of the team that lost to Carolina in Game Seven of the Eastern Conference Finals.
Having capable players wasting away in Portland is a luxury that most teams would envy. It is not a problem to have too many forwards.
Which side of the argument are you on. Would you like to see the Sabres trade away a player or two in an effort to open up some room for Gerbe and Kennedy or are you content to use them as depth in case of injury?
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Which side of the argument are you on. Would you like to see the Sabres trade away a player or two in an effort to open up some room for Gerbe and Kennedy or are you content to use them as depth in case of injury?
Isn’t this deserving of a poll? For the record, I’m content with both of them starting in Portland. I think getting 20+ minutes a game there under the watchful eye of Dineen is better than getting fluff minutes in Buffalo.
I like the depth of the forwards, but the talent really starts to fall off after about 4-5 players, maybe less.
You're right
I knew I forgot to do something.
D.O.
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by David Oleksy on Aug 12, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
I wish. It’s been a forgetful day but tomorrow starts a new one.
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by David Oleksy on Aug 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The way this team is setting itself up, all signs are pointing that way. That being said, trying to find a trade partner is going to be tough with the way most teams are setup against the cap.
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by Zachary Zielonka on Aug 13, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions
trying to find a trade partner is going to be tough with the way most teams are setup against the cap.
Couldn’t agree any more with that statement. Off of the top of my head, I can’t think of any teams that need forwards like we have. E
Exactly, we are overloaded yet how can we get rid of the bloat? Not easily. Thankfully some of these guys have 2 way contracts. Interesting that we are signing forward yet have all these young studs in Portland. It seems to me the Sabs are hedging their bets with the youngins.
The population of Pominville keeps rising!
by Blackcapricorn on Aug 13, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Tough poll...
I had a tough time with this one. On one hand I think there is still some fat that can be trimmed off the front lines, namely Tim Connolly and Jochen Hecht. Tim is great…when he is healthy but that is a big IF. I can’t remember a season that he played all the way thru. Hecht has just lost a step or five… This would free 2 spots and let us bring up some of the great young talent. I also think Henrik Tallinder needs to go… I can’t count how many times last season the he was WAY out of position or just stood there and watched the puck go right by him and score. I think after 2-3 seasons of just plain bad numbers its time to go… Max was a great example. He was the hottest thing on skates then overnight just blah. Just my opinion. I think this should be a good year. Judging by some the moves we made I think Ruff and Darcy are tired of losing and pushed around.
They’ll keep Connelly, He’s to much of a playmaker and besides we just resigned him and in Reigers interview after the signing he said Tim is here to stay! Def agree bought Hank and Hecht though. Its time for a fresh start for them but with all the teams and the cap i wonder if some of these players are gona go to Russia and play.
Got some work to do before being a playoff team let alone a contender again!
by thenewhockeytown on Aug 13, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think we’re considering getting rid of one of our top three talents. Connolly isn’t going anywhere this season. I doubt anyone will want Hecht or his contract – we’ll likely be keeping him too for better or for worse.
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Seems a trade is looming
The way this off-season has gone so far it has seemed like Darcy was building up for a trade. Now it seems even more possible to me. Perhaps a big reason Stafford and Mancari have not signed contracts yet. Much easier to trade them before they get caught in a contract that another team doesn’t want
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