Roy is Better than Briere
I know that you think I've lost my mind. You are probably saying " uh oh, D.O. has officially lost his mind", followed by " and he thinks Bucky is an idiot?" I haven't lost my mind. In fact it's quite the opposite. I have looked at these two players and I see a similar but more talented player in Derek Roy than I do Danny Briere.
In many ways Briere and Roy are similar players. I think that Roy learned a lot from Briere and it shows in the way he plays. All of the things that people hate about Derek Roy (i.e. taking dives, lazy back checking, lazy shift changes, getting out-muscled in the corners, afraid to take a hit) were traits of Briere. Despite being similar players Briere was looked at as a hero and Roy is chastised by the fans.
It is not a surprise that Roy plays a lot like Briere. Briere became a superstar while he was with the Sabres. As a young player I'm sure Roy looked up to Briere in many ways. Why wouldn't he? Briere was a successful player despite being criticized for his size. Derek Roy was similar in size and was hoping to be as successful as Briere and therefore he modeled his game after him.
We sometimes forget that Derek Roy is only 25 years-old and will be only 26 when next season begins. At the age of 25 Danny Briere was traded from the Phoenix Coyotes to the Buffalo Sabres because he was not living up to expectations. Admittedly the Coyotes were giving up too soon on a player that had scored 32 goals just one season earlier but the point is the same.
Shouldn't we learn from other people's mistakes? It's not hard to find a message board or a blog that thinks that Derek Roy should be traded away. Somehow Derek Roy is being blamed for everything that is wrong with this team. It's funny that the same people that were (and maybe still are) upset that Danny Briere was allowed to leave are calling for Derek Roy to be traded away despite being the most consistent player on the team.
Last season was only the fifth season in the NHL for Derek Roy. In his five seasons he has accomplished more than Briere had accomplished by the age of 25. Roy has averaged over 20 goals a season and has scored over 20 goals in three of his five seasons. Roy had a career high 32 goals in the 2007-2008 season matching the career high for Briere. Briere has had 32 goals twice in his career and once before the age of 25.
Before the age of 26 Briere had some flashes of briliance with the Coyotes but it wasn't until 2005-2006, at the age of 28 while with the Sabres that Briere established himself as a superstar. In that season he scored 25 goals and 33 assists for 58 points in only 48 games. He followed that up with the best season of his career, scoring 32 goals and 63 assists for 95 points in his last season in Buffalo.
If Roy is following the same career path as Briere than his best days are still ahead of him. Giving up on Roy at this point of his career would be a huge mistake. Like it or not, Derek Roy is probably the best player on this team. He can play in both ends of the ice (when he wants to), he is crafty with the puck and he makes other people around him better. That is another trait that Briere had...he made other people aroud him better.
Only time will tell where the two players career will go from here but at the current pace I expect big things from Derek Roy. He is an outstanding player that is on the verge of becoming a superstar.
The Size Comparison
Career Stats
Derek Roy Career Stats
Danny Briere Career Stats before turning 26
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I completely agree when you say Roy is better than Briere.
And yes, I’m one of those you refer to making a case for trading Roy.
Difference is – I was OK when they let Briere go. Frankly, even if all had known that Drury was going to walk, I still would have been OK with letting Briere leave – because you’re also right that most of the complaints about Roy also apply to Briere. I don’t want that type of player as the “face” of my team.
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I won’t argue that I don’t want the have Derek Roy as the face of the franchise but that is what was so great about this team two years go. Briere wasn’t the face of the franchise but he had 95 points. I know that it’s asking a lot to find the face of the franchise while keeping Roy around but it’s necessary. Roy is relatively cheap to keep so why trade him? There is another Chris Drury out there to compliment Roy…they just need to find him.
D.O.
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by David Oleksy on Apr 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the problem is that Briere made such a name with the Sabres that people find it hard to look past him.
I’m a fresh Sabres fan that started following the team the year after Briere and Drury left. To make a long story short, I’ve lived my whole life in Seattle watching the WHL’s Seattle Thunderbirds, but since Seattle never had an NHL team, I never followed the NHL.
Then I married a Sabres fan! We watch the Sabres every night they are on and thanks to the NHL package, we watch a game or two on other nights.
Needless to say, I can’t figure out what all the fuss about Briere is anyways! He may have been great in Buffalo, but what has he done since he left? In the 07-08 season, Derek Roy played 78 games and Briere played 79. They were fairly even in goals scored, with Roy at 32 and Briere at 31, same with assists and points. However, Briere was -22 while Roy was a +13 in that season!!!!! We won’t even discuss 08-09 as Briere missed much of the season, but I think Roy’s numbers have shown that he better for the Sabre’s.
Sabres fans just need to take a fresh look at things and get over the obsession with Briere (and Drury…and the 06-07 Sabres). It’s a new team and they have the talent…they just have to figure out how to use it!
Thank You
It’s great to have more people that feel the same way I do. This is a talented team and the only thing keeping them out of the playoffs is themselves.
D.O.
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by David Oleksy on Apr 23, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you to many extents on this topic. I argue time and again that since Briere has left he has not been the player he was when he was here. However, I think the things that people loved about Briere that Roy has not stepped in and fulfilled are the heroics and the willingness to actually hit someone. I was watching the Flyers-Pens game the other night and Briere finished a check on a much larger (can’t remember who) Pittsburgh defender in the corner and I thought to myself, that is why people love this guy. He’s a little guy who’s not afraid to mix it up once in a while. Derek Roy was not successful this year because of he was afraid to go the the net when it counted, and could not forecheck for his life because he seems utterly afraid of physical contact (a problem much of this Sabres team seems to possess). Briere always scored down and dirty goals near the net and forechecked with authority, and didn’y always shy away from finishing a check on an opposing defenseman. That’s the little man syndrome that Briere and Gerbe possess and Roy does not.
Quinn Kessenich of ESPN says it all the time in lacrosse games, you have to take the extra step to glory. Take the extra stride, get your nose bloody and finish the play. Something Briere does and Roy has not since he was a rookie.
Roy definitely seems to shy away from checking and needs to become more aggressive in that respect.
I am soooo excited about Nathan Gerbe. The kid can skate and HIT! In this recent playoff series against Providence, we saw him take out Adam McQuaid three times in three games. McQuaid is 6’4 to Gerbe’s 5’6.
After he works out his kinks in the next year or two, I really think he is going to be just as fun to watch in the NHL as he has been in the AHL. He has heart.
That is probably the most important part. Whether it is “little man syndrome” or just plain heart and desire, as long as a guy has something, combined with talent, he’ll do great things.
I think Roy is capable of more as well. Hopefully the disappointment of missing the playoffs again will help him step up his game.

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