Deadline Day [Open Thread]
by David Oleksy on Mar 4, 2009 6:00 AM EST
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It's deadline day and we need a place to chat while the trades are taking place. We will still have posts about any Buffalo Sabres trades and will probably do a summary on Thursday. The games on Tuesday were not favorable to the Sabres with Philadelphia, Carolina, Florida and Pittsburgh all winning. The Sabres are now in 10th place and have plenty of work to do.
Questions to Answer
- Are the Sabres buyers or sellers?
- Will Tim Connolly be dealt and if so to who?
- Will the Sabres be able to unload Max Afinogenov or are they stuck with him till the end of the season?
- Will the Sabres be able to make the team stronger for their run to the playoffs?
- Will Martin Biron or any other goalie be headed to Buffalo?
Those are some of the key questions that need to be answered for the Sabres has they head into the stretch run. In another nine hours this team could look a whole lot different.
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Happy Deadline Day everyone. It really feels like Christmas. For those who can follow along at work, TSN’s Tradecentre does work in the states.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 8:06 AM EST reply actions
Man its great day today- in at work at 7:45, got all my browsers loaded up. Also, I had a bit of trouble with the tsn feed but you can find it here at a mirror site: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/habsvision
I think the Sabs stand pat sadly. No takers for Max, Timmy Glass doesn’t get moved. Maybe we trade picks or something. Damn Darcy- Make It Interesting! :-p
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
TSN just said that negotiations for Tim will resume at 9am and the “jury is very much out” if a deal will actually get done. Apparently he is asking for 3 years. Yeesh that’s a long time with this guy if it happens.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
TSN is reporting that Connolly wants a three year deal to stay with the Sabres. Two years too long
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they’ll compromise and go with two. I would be okay with a two year deal.
D.O.
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Ahhhhh TSN saying a 2 year 4 mill PER deal is close! Gaaaaah I hope the Sabs have a lot of insurance.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
I am hoping I misheard and that its $4 mill total. How can we keep making the same mistakes with money/length with this guy (no matter his point per game average)?
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
No you heard that right, $4 million per.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
That is all.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Actually is better than $4 million per, which means it worth more.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I hear ya
I have two computers going plus the NHL Network on and I have like three windows open on each computer. I’m in heaven!
D.O.
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Haha- its great! Thank god I have no more attention span, I am clicking between browser tabs like a mad man!
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'm here
Not sure how long I’ll be here today but hopefully the action picks up soon.
D.O.
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So how about some predictions
Tim Connolly -stays
Ales Kotalik – stays
Maxim Afinogenov – gone
Jaro Spacek – stays
Drew Stafford -stays
Henrik Tallinder – gone
Toni Lydman -stays
Jason Pominville -stays
Jochen Hecht -stays
Clarke MacArthur – gone
D.O.
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I’m hoping for a fire sale today. I think this team needs to take a step back before they can take two forward. It stinks to think they will miss the playoffs for a second straight year. But, this isn’t a Cup contender, no matter what they could add, if they even choose to do so.
I’m really in favor of letting Tim, Kotalik, Max, Spacek, and Tallinder go.
Spacek can stay and I would even keep Tallinder, the rest can go.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
These people need to do something, they are killing me
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 9:34 AM EST reply actions
Kuba has signed with the Senators, in case anyone really cares.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 9:53 AM EST reply actions
Vermette for Leclaire apparently, and so it begins.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Ladies and gentleman, the first trade of the day. Vermette to Blue Jackets for Pascal Leclaire.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions
damn beat me to it!
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
And a second round pick from C-bus- whew that made it a bit more expensivo. Apparently they are tired of missing the playoffs.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Its a good trade for the Senators, going to kill us next year.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
And now he left HSBC arena despite the upcoming morning skate. WTF?
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
If I disappear for a few minutes bear with me.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:07 AM EST reply actions
I will try and have threads up for all relevant trades today and post links here.
Vermette to Jackets for Leclaire and second round pick.
http://www.diebytheblade.com/2009/3/4/780322/ottawa-sends-vermette-to-b
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions
Stupid sources, would help if they knew what they are talking about. Connolly left the building because he wanted to.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions
He hasn’t signed yet, but agreed to.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Right, its not done yet but probably will be. If its $4+ its a waaay overpay.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
If its $4+ its a waaay overpay.
This should be a whole post to itself.
I’ll admit, I wanted to move him for a young stud. I’d have to agree – 4 million a year when the cap will be coming down is a lot of money.
Tim Connolly has signed the contract, two years $9.5 million.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
If he can stay healthy, it won’t be an overpay.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I will bet you good money on that “if”.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.diebytheblade.com/2009/3/4/780374/tim-connolly-signs-two-yea
My thoughts on the Connolly extension
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions
You are right, its definitely not a sign and trade. I thought the Sabs learned their lesson paying him all that money over the last few years and now they are going to pay him more money for more years???? I agreed with other people who stated he should sign for a hometown discount or not at all. At least this will take some of the heat from people criticizing Pommers contract.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
But $4.5 Million for a point per game is pretty damn cheap
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
The key words in all of your arguments are “if” and “per game”. I cannot see him playing 164 games. He would at least have to get to 120 for this to even start making sense.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Ferraro saying that the Sabre players excited that Connolly was signed, players now believe that they still have a chance.
Maybe they play really, really well tonight.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Anybody think at this point that the Sabres still make a move?
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions
I think they might but it would be for a plugger on the blue line, no top shelf deal.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
These guys are going to kill me because I was hoping for a big splash.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Leopold to the Flames. Not much we can say there except that it really means that there is no one for us to pick up.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions
Jokienen is rumored to be also going to the Flames. They are really loading up. Expecting the Sabs to make a big splash? Have you seen the last 4 offseasons/trade deadlines? Darcy’s ice cream flavor is vanilla.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
TSN now saying Jokinen for Lombardi and 1st round
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
The only unanswered question at this point is does Darcy bring a goalie back.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions
Aren’t they close to their self imposed cap? I think they would probably stick with Enroth as the back up and Patrick as the starter till Miller returns.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Depends on how long Miller’s injury is going to be. Lalime has played well, but it may not be enough.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think the self-imposed cap was $52 million, correct. They are close to that so one would assume they are done.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
For a 4th round pick.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
So 1) is Miller more hurt then reported and 2) what does it say about the front office that the Sabs basically have 3 AHL starters for goalies right now?
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Tellqvist isn’t half bad and neither is Lalime.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
The team as a whole has to play better in front of whoever is in net, just color me meh at the whole situation past Miller though.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Quick thoughts on the Tellqvist trade
http://www.diebytheblade.com/2009/3/4/780490/tellqvist-to-the-sabres
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions
Boston makes a small trade with Anaheim: Boston sends Petteri Nokelainen to Anaheim for Steve Montador.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions
Well with Pronger off the market I guess they are getting it where they can.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Jokinen is going to the Flames. Sounds like Lombardi, Prust and a 1st round pick going back
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions
Think I beat you by 2 seconds on that one cool! hehe. Flames truly are going to make a run this year, wow that West playoffs should be fun!
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
its nice...
this week is the nhl network free preview. live coverage on tv right now. channel 233 if you have time warner and live in rochester.
Im really sick of hearing about the Jokinen deal, really really slow.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions
Ok, so let’s have odds on where Max lands after this season.
KHL: 3-2
Rangers: 20-1
Sabres: 5,000,000,000,000-1
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I would change the odds for the KHL to 1-1. I have no doubt that hes out of the league next year.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Ok how about another odds situation, what are the odds that Stafford gets an offer sheet?
I say 5-1. And 2-1 that if he does he is gone since the Sabs won’t match what with all that money now flowing to TC.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he is as strong around the league as we think he is. Offer sheet odds are probably at 15-1.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
TSN reporting that the Lightning have traded Mark Recchi to the Boston Bruins.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions
The Avalanche are announcing that Forsberg is going to retire tonight.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions
Not really deadline worthy, but its really really really really slow
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Guerin to the Pens, really? It took that long to do that deal? Yeesh.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bill Guerin is going to the Pittsburgh Penguins.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions
There are always a ton of trades that come in that 1/2 hour after the deadline b/c the NHL office is processing it all. Smyth trade to the Island was announced at like 5pm or something.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I know but this is the slowest deadline right now in a decade.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Still better than concentrating on work which is currently my other option.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah me too....
way better then work. 19 minutes!
will this be all for the Sabres!?
by HO on Mar 4, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I assumed that when they dealt for Tellqvist
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
The Coyotes Fire Sale is continuing, Carcillo to the Flyers for Upshall and a 2nd round pick
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions
Maple Leafs send Antropov to the Rangers
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions
2nd and a conditional- the rebuild continues.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
So basically the Flames, Rangers and Sabs were the most active today.
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The Coyotes made four trades today as did the Ducks if you count the Whitney deal made last week. I would consider that pretty active.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
Right I completely forgot that someone had to be on the receiving end of those trades and that would be the Desert Dogs.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
How on God’s green earth did the Leafs decide to trade in division????
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Can some get a fan shot up for me. I’m running a little behind
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions
I thought he was a defensemen
what the hell do we need this guy for!? I’m lost.
by HO on Mar 4, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Why don’t we create a line out of Connolly, Moore and Roy? ;)
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I guess we could technically move Roy to wing, or Moore to wing.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
why is WGR550 so far behind?`
LOL…I just got my trade-update for Moore. Someone should tell them to come to die by the blade and KEEP UP! Jeeze!
Erik Cole to the Hurricanes through Carolina/Kings/Oilers trade that sends Patrick O’Sullivan to the Oilers and Justin Williams to the Oilers.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions
LMAO....I hate when that happens!
Are you working and doing this at the same time?
by HO on Mar 4, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Williams goes to the Kings, not the Oilers
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions
WGR i assume is reporting that the Sabres are a part of the Hurricanes/Kings/Oilers trade. The Hurricanes draft pick that we sent to Toronto was for Ales Kotalik who was flipped to the Oilers.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions
Which essentially means that the Moore trade was Moore for Kotalik, which is astounding loss.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what I’m hearing, apparently Sportsnet is reporting this.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
It makes sense though. You couldn’t add Moore to the lineup without something else going down. Kotalik has a cap hit of 2.33 Million, Moore has a hit of 900,000 for about the same production.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Its on the front page. I cant seem to get an actual link
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Not true
I just got home and I don’t think that is true.
Edmonton got Patrick O’Sullivan from Carolina
D.O.
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Never mid it has happened
D.O.
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Its on TSN’s trade tracker. Its good now.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I don’t mind the trade now as much
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Thats the only thing that we miss out of Kotalik. Moore is good on Special teams and faceoffs.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
I guess we'll see tonight.
He’s gonna have to make a believer outta me or I’m going to be an Oilers fan.
by HO on Mar 4, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Something is telling me he probably won’t be in the lineup tonight but he will make his debut against the Coyotes.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Maple Leafs have acquired Olaf Kolzig, Jamie Heward, Andy Rogers, and 4th round pick from the Lightning for Richard Petiot.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions
yes.
I agree. What the hell are they doing up there!? Jeeze.
I’m so sad.
by HO on Mar 4, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like there was a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. The way I can see today really working to the Sabs favor is if 1) Miller is out long term and Telly actually picks up the slack and 2) that Moore makes Pommer and our other underachieving forwards find their scoring touch again.
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Alright guys, I’m checking out for the night. Thanks for following along all day.
by Zachary Zielonka on Mar 4, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions
Thanks coolman
Sorry I couldn’t be around all day
D.O.
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Many thanks Cool!
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by Blackcapricorn on Mar 4, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
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